[owasp_seraphimdroid_project] Questions regarding warnings and logs, location

Nikola Milosevic nikola.milosevic at owasp.org
Sun Mar 20 14:50:25 UTC 2016

One more thing, I would like to clarify. In your post you said:

   - SeraphimDropid did not provide any warnings since the phone is

SeraphimDroid is designed to work with non-rooted devices only. The idea
was that majority of users do have normal, non-rooted phones, as they buy
them and they need some sort of protection. When you do root the device you
do get access to many more features and you can provide heavier protection,
but usually users who rooted their device are technically more savvy and
know what they are doing.

So device being not rooted is not a problem for us, as it should work with
these devices, so it is great you are testing it on it. I don't believe
there could be any issue for malware if phone is not rooted, since it would
be a bit weird to design malware that work only with rooted devices as they
are few. However, to conclude, if app does not work, I would take
responsibility to say that feature did not work in that case. However, here
malware seems to be quiet, not sending any SMS, with who knows which reason
(maybe it waits certain amount of days in order to better hide or something
else). You should check permission scanner what says about installed app
and let us know. However, that is a bit harder to update and we are aware
that it will provide some degree of protection (hopefully!), but not
perfect one, since it uses only the use of permissions to determine whether
something is or is not malware and is trained on relatively small dataset
(400 apps, 200 malware, 200 benign).

Pozdrav/Best regards,

Nikola Milošević
OWASP Seraphimdroid project leader
nikola.milosevic at owasp.org
OWASP - Open Web Application Security Project
OWASP Seraphimdroid Project

On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Nikola Milosevic <
nikola.milosevic at owasp.org> wrote:

> Hello Johanna,
> I am not sure whether you are aware, there is some kind of user guide
> http://inspiratron.org/OWASPSeraphimdroid/SeraphimdroidDocumentation.pdf
> and it starts on 11th page on the document (in the beginning is some
> architecture overview, which may be better off in separate document,
> however, this is the current state of affairs.
> Regarding your question, please make sure you entered the app at least
> once after installing it. There are SMS logs. You can find them under menu
> and blocker logs. There are 3 tabs, for blocked SMS, USSD and calls.
> However, if the SMS is sent you should see a notification with OWASP logo
> saying that there is potentially malicious SMS sent from the device, or
> something similar. Similar should happen when you install malicious app if
> Seraphimdroid recognizes it. What should happen is that app is run through
> the classifier and if it is classified as potentially malicious it should
> fire notification. However, you can check as well how your apps are
> classified when you open permission scanner (again from the app menu). If
> there is green square next to app name, classifier thought it is ok, if it
> is red it thinks it is malicious.
> Also you may want to have a look at settings menu. There are some options
> regarding which calls/SMS/USSD codes should be let go, which should be
> stopped, some settings for blacklists and remote control features.
> Pozdrav/Best regards,
> Nikola Milošević
> OWASP Seraphimdroid project leader
> nikola.milosevic at owasp.org
> OWASP - Open Web Application Security Project
> <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Main_Page>
> OWASP Seraphimdroid Project
> <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_SeraphimDroid_Project>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 2:33 PM, johanna curiel curiel <
> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Hi All
>> I finalised a first round of testing with SeraphimDroid, you can see my
>> experience here:
>> http://cybersecuritywarrior.blogspot.com/2016/03/continued-saga-with-seraphimdroid.html
>> Based on it, I have some questions:
>> Where are warnings shown?
>> In case of infection, were can I confirm that information(any forms of
>> logs , reports)
>> Cheers
>> Johanna Curiel
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