[Owasp_project_leader_list] [Owasp-board] OWASP Projects: Program Models

Samantha Groves samantha.groves at owasp.org
Wed May 21 16:30:51 UTC 2014


Thank you, Kevin. Are you volunteering to put this google doc together for
us? It would be a great help.


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org> wrote:

> Good one Kevin - I totally understand what you are saying and think that I
> will move it to a google doc... working on something else at the moment,
> then will take that on and follow up on this thread with the link (and will
> link from that wiki page).
>
> Thanks for the great input on gathering input ;-)
>
> Sarah
>
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Kevin W. Wall <kevin.w.wall at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I'll say only one thing here and will try to place the rest of my
>> thoughts on the wiki page that Samantha pointed out.
>>
>> The one thing that I wanted to mention here is regarding the type
>> of feedback that is being solicited to be provided on the wiki page
>> is that if a lot of people start commenting on it (so far,
>> NOT a problem), that it will quickly become unruly.  A wiki format
>> does not readily present itself to allow one easily to see who is
>> responding to whom.
>>
>> The other issue I see with it is that unless we also start using
>> the wiki Discussions page (which I guess we can do), it is going
>> to be difficult to comment on something without also interrupting
>> the flow of the three original options. Not everything nicely fits
>> into the "Any other considerations" row and the "Additional Comments"
>> section, or perhaps I should say, it _can_ be accomodated that way,
>> but perhaps not without losing a lot of context. At best, I can see
>> a lot of this sort of explanation if a lot of people start commenting:
>>
>>     In the second sentence of the 4th bullet under Option #3 of
>>     the "New Project Designations" section ...blah, blah...
>>
>> When it might take more to explain the context than to get across
>> your point or pose a question, that's a good hint that we are not
>> using the right medium to get feedback. The other potential problem
>> with editing the wiki is I don't have high confidence of what happens
>> if two or more people try to edit it at once. Maybe it works; maybe
>> it doesn't. But I don't want to find out the hard way that it doesn't.
>>
>> So, in keeping with Michael's recent suggestions about using Google
>> Drive (fka Google Docs), I would suggest that perhaps we place the
>> content of this ProjectProgramModels wiki page there and then use
>> the "Insert comments" and the "Document History" facilities to
>> track things.
>>
>> In the meantime, I shall endeavor to make comments on the wiki itself
>> the best that I can without having to write a bunch of explanatory
>> text just describing the context that I am commenting on.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -kevin
>>
>> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Seba <seba at owasp.org> wrote:
>> > Hi Samantha,
>> >
>> > The links seem to point to another URL, I suppose you want them to
>> point to:
>> > https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Governance/ProjectProgramModels
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > Seba
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Samantha Groves <
>> samantha.groves at owasp.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello Leaders,
>> >>
>> >> After many discussions over the current OWASP Project Program model,
>> the
>> >> Board of Directors have agreed to change the direction of OWASP
>> Projects. We
>> >> would like to give the community an opportunity to voice their
>> opinion, and
>> >> help us decide how to move projects forward.
>> >>
>> >> We want leaders to comment and debate various project program models to
>> >> help us better serve you, the OWASP community.
>> >>
>> >> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Governance/ProjectProgramModels
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> More Information
>> >>
>> >> The OWASP Projects Program is one of our most visible endeavors. We
>> have
>> >> over 200 project leaders and even more contributors spread across all
>> of the
>> >> projects in our inventory. It was determined, after a long discussion,
>> that
>> >> the current program model requires too many resources to manage
>> efficiently
>> >> and effectively. After debating over different approaches, we decided
>> to
>> >> consolidate 3 main ideas and structure them into models to get the
>> >> conversation started. Of course, each of these models have their own
>> >> positives and negatives.
>> >>
>> >> For OWASP to scale and grow we need to pick an approach and document
>> it.
>> >> This way the community can communicate their proposed direction for
>> >> projects, and everyone will be able to understand what the focus is for
>> >> OWASP Projects once a consensus has been reached.
>> >>
>> >> Action for the Community
>> >>
>> >> We would like the OWASP community to cast a vote for the model they
>> >> believe is best for OWASP. Before we vote on the issue, we also want
>> our
>> >> community to help identify considerations for each model. What are the
>> >> positives and negatives? Is there another approach that we should
>> consider?
>> >> Is there something we are not considering?
>> >>
>> >> The 3 models are listed here in the wiki:
>> >>
>> >> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Governance/ProjectProgramModels
>> >>
>> >> Please update and add additional considerations. Please don't remove
>> >> existing text. Instead use the comment section at the bottom to explain
>> >> areas you may disagree with.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thank you, OWASP Community!
>> >>
>> >> Samantha Groves
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Samantha Groves, MBA
>> >>
>> >> OWASP Projects Manager
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The OWASP Foundation
>> >>
>> >> Phoenix, USA
>> >>
>> >> Email: samantha.groves at owasp.org
>> >>
>> >> Skype: samanthahz
>> >>
>> >>
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