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Yea, I see what you are saying but I do not see that as a problem
Neil.... How does it cause harm?<br>
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With respect,<br>
Jim<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/18/14, 3:36 PM, Neil Smithline
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAH4vb=1AW9Dt4AMdDw7A=40r5wY7hXGmgQaJ0CqozcYSsKnN2Q@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">"<span
style="font-size:small;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">OWASP
Boot Camp Project" or any subcategory that says "(empty)" next
to it<span></span></span><br>
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On Monday, August 18, 2014, Jim Manico <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Empty subcategories makes
sense. A subcategory and contents of a subcategory are two
different things....<br>
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Can you give me an example?<br>
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Aloha,<br>
Jim<br>
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<div>On 8/15/14, 12:56 PM, Neil Smithline wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Cool?
Wanna give it a go, Neil?</span></blockquote>
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<div>Huh? Me!??! OK. I was planning on it :)</div>
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<div>I'll try to create templates for the formatting so
that we can repeat it on other category pages where we
think it's appropriate.</div>
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<div>Do you have any idea why empty subcategories show up
in the page? I checked a few of the pages and found
subcategory pages that have been customized but contain
no pages in them. That seems broken to me. My guess is
that there were pages in that category, someone
customized the category page, the pages were deleted or
moved to another category. Now we're left with these
dangling category pages. They probably need cleaning up
as well :(</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:14 PM,
Jim Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jim.manico@owasp.org');"
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> +1 I like what
you did there.<br>
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Between adding the OWASP banner and doing the
highlighting, I think these pages will be a lot more
attractive without major effort or redesign.<br>
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Cool? Wanna give it a go, Neil?<br>
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Aloha,<br>
Jim
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<div dir="ltr">Ahh. I seem to have consistent
ideas. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Top_10_2013-Table_of_Contents"
target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Top_10_2013-Table_of_Contents</a>
is a page where I manually created the
top-half of a category page to look nice,
leaving the bottom half looking ugly. We
could do something like this for <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet</a><font
face="arial, sans-serif">.</font>
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2014 at 5:47 PM, Neil Smithline <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','neil.smithline@owasp.org');"
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<div dir="ltr">OK. There's very little
flexibility on the category pages. We
can't do anything to change the format
of the existing one (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://enil.us/1sK7M13"
target="_blank">http://enil.us/1sK7M13</a>).
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<div>We can create something
autoformatted using <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://enil.us/1re1mHQ"
target="_blank">http://enil.us/1re1mHQ</a>.
We'll need to get that extension
installed (I'm guessing that it
isn't).</div>
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<div>If we create a substitute for the
category page. It will need to have
a different URL. This will affect
the search function as I don't
believe that we can remove the
existing category page as it's
auto-generated. So both our new page
and the old category page will have
search hits. We *might* be able to
put a redirect on the current
category page to our new page. I
haven't tested if this is possible.<br>
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<div>If we can't create a redirect, we
can just create a pretty top to the
current category page that is
formatted similar to<span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet"
style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet</a> and
leave the nasty category stuff at
the bottom of the page. Not a great
solution but a definite improvement.</div>
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Aug 15, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Neil
Smithline <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','neil.smithline@owasp.org');"
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<div dir="ltr">I agree that
the default category page
looks ugly. In general I'm
not a big Mediawiki format
fan.
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<div>The category page is
automatically generated.
There's no need to add new
pages to it. If you add a
new page to the category,
it will automatically
appear. The cheat sheet
guide is manually created
via the template at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Template:Cheatsheet_Navigation_Body&action=edit"
target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Template:Cheatsheet_Navigation_Body&action=edit</a>. </div>
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<div>So if we change the
category page we'll either
lose the automatic
maintenance of the links
or need to learn how to
keep the automatic listing
function available. Also,
the "Category:" URL is
special to Mediawiki and
we're limited in the
changes we can do (at
least in a straightforward
way). I'll see what I can
google about monkeying
with category pages.</div>
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Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at
3:49 PM, Jim Manico <span
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Editors,<br>
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This download page
...<br>
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<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Download"
target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Download</a><br>
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... is one of the
top ten most popular
pages in recent
months.<br>
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It looks awkward. Do
you think styling
this like <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet"
target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet</a>
or similar is
prudent?<br>
<br>
Aloha,<br>
Jim<br>
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