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Empty subcategories makes sense. A subcategory and contents of a
subcategory are two different things....<br>
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Can you give me an example?<br>
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Aloha,<br>
Jim<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/15/14, 12:56 PM, Neil Smithline
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style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Cool?
Wanna give it a go, Neil?</span></blockquote>
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<div>Huh? Me!??! OK. I was planning on it :)</div>
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<div>I'll try to create templates for the formatting so that we
can repeat it on other category pages where we think it's
appropriate.</div>
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<div>Do you have any idea why empty subcategories show up in the
page? I checked a few of the pages and found subcategory pages
that have been customized but contain no pages in them. That
seems broken to me. My guess is that there were pages in that
category, someone customized the category page, the pages were
deleted or moved to another category. Now we're left with
these dangling category pages. They probably need cleaning up
as well :(</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Jim
Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> +1 I like what you
did there.<br>
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Between adding the OWASP banner and doing the
highlighting, I think these pages will be a lot more
attractive without major effort or redesign.<br>
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Cool? Wanna give it a go, Neil?<br>
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Aloha,<br>
Jim
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<div>On 8/15/14, 12:01 PM, Neil Smithline wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ahh. I seem to have consistent
ideas. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Top_10_2013-Table_of_Contents"
target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Top_10_2013-Table_of_Contents</a>
is a page where I manually created the top-half of
a category page to look nice, leaving the bottom
half looking ugly. We could do something like this
for <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet"
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet</a><font
face="arial, sans-serif">.</font>
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<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Neil</font></div>
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href="tel:408-634-5764" value="+14086345764"
target="_blank">408-634-5764</a><br>
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5:47 PM, Neil Smithline <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:neil.smithline@owasp.org"
target="_blank">neil.smithline@owasp.org</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">OK. There's very little
flexibility on the category pages. We can't
do anything to change the format of the
existing one (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://enil.us/1sK7M13"
target="_blank">http://enil.us/1sK7M13</a>).
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<div>We can create something autoformatted
using <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://enil.us/1re1mHQ"
target="_blank">http://enil.us/1re1mHQ</a>.
We'll need to get that extension installed
(I'm guessing that it isn't).</div>
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<div>If we create a substitute for the
category page. It will need to have a
different URL. This will affect the search
function as I don't believe that we can
remove the existing category page as it's
auto-generated. So both our new page and
the old category page will have search
hits. We *might* be able to put a redirect
on the current category page to our new
page. I haven't tested if this is
possible.<br>
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<div>If we can't create a redirect, we can
just create a pretty top to the current
category page that is formatted similar to<span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet"
style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet</a> and
leave the nasty category stuff at the
bottom of the page. Not a great solution
but a definite improvement.</div>
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value="+14086345764" target="_blank">408-634-5764</a><br>
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2014 at 5:25 PM, Neil Smithline <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:neil.smithline@owasp.org"
target="_blank">neil.smithline@owasp.org</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">I agree that the
default category page looks ugly.
In general I'm not a big Mediawiki
format fan.
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<div>The category page is
automatically generated. There's
no need to add new pages to it.
If you add a new page to the
category, it will automatically
appear. The cheat sheet guide is
manually created via the
template at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Template:Cheatsheet_Navigation_Body&action=edit"
target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Template:Cheatsheet_Navigation_Body&action=edit</a>. </div>
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<div>So if we change the category
page we'll either lose the
automatic maintenance of the
links or need to learn how to
keep the automatic listing
function available. Also, the
"Category:" URL is special to
Mediawiki and we're limited in
the changes we can do (at least
in a straightforward way). I'll
see what I can google about
monkeying with category pages.</div>
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Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:49
PM, Jim Manico <span
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target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span>
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Editors,<br>
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This download page ...<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Download"
target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Download</a><br>
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... is one of the top ten
most popular pages in
recent months.<br>
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It looks awkward. Do you
think styling this like <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet"
target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet</a>
or similar is prudent?<br>
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Aloha,<br>
Jim<br>
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