[OWASP-wiki-editors] Very Popular: Download Page

Jim Manico jim.manico at owasp.org
Tue Aug 19 05:15:10 UTC 2014


Yea, I see what you are saying but I do not see that as a problem 
Neil.... How does it cause harm?

With respect,
Jim

On 8/18/14, 3:36 PM, Neil Smithline wrote:
> "OWASP Boot Camp Project" or any subcategory that says "(empty)" next 
> to it
>
> On Monday, August 18, 2014, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org 
> <mailto:jim.manico at owasp.org>> wrote:
>
>     Empty subcategories makes sense. A subcategory and contents of a
>     subcategory are two different things....
>
>     Can you give me an example?
>
>     Aloha,
>     Jim
>
>     On 8/15/14, 12:56 PM, Neil Smithline wrote:
>>
>>         Cool? Wanna give it a go, Neil?
>>
>>
>>     Huh? Me!??! OK. I was planning on it :)
>>
>>     I'll try to create templates for the formatting so that we can
>>     repeat it on other category pages where we think it's appropriate.
>>
>>     Do you have any idea why empty subcategories show up in the page?
>>     I checked a few of the pages and found subcategory pages that
>>     have been customized but contain no pages in them. That seems
>>     broken to me. My guess is that there were pages in that category,
>>     someone customized the category page, the pages were deleted or
>>     moved to another category. Now we're left with these dangling
>>     category pages. They probably need cleaning up as well :(
>>
>>
>>     Neil Smithline
>>     408-634-5764
>>     http://www.neilsmithline.com <http://www.neilsmithline.com/>
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org
>>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jim.manico at owasp.org');>> wrote:
>>
>>         +1 I like what you did there.
>>
>>         Between adding the OWASP banner and doing the highlighting, I
>>         think these pages will be a lot more attractive without major
>>         effort or redesign.
>>
>>         Cool? Wanna give it a go, Neil?
>>
>>         Aloha,
>>         Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 8/15/14, 12:01 PM, Neil Smithline wrote:
>>>         Ahh. I seem to have consistent ideas.
>>>         https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Top_10_2013-Table_of_Contents is
>>>         a page where I manually created the top-half of a category
>>>         page to look nice, leaving the bottom half looking ugly. We
>>>         could do something like this for
>>>         https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet.
>>>
>>>         Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>         Neil Smithline
>>>         408-634-5764 <tel:408-634-5764>
>>>         http://www.neilsmithline.com <http://www.neilsmithline.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Neil Smithline
>>>         <neil.smithline at owasp.org
>>>         <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','neil.smithline at owasp.org');>>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>             OK. There's very little flexibility on the category
>>>             pages. We can't do anything to change the format of the
>>>             existing one (http://enil.us/1sK7M13).
>>>
>>>             We can create something autoformatted using
>>>             http://enil.us/1re1mHQ. We'll need to get that extension
>>>             installed (I'm guessing that it isn't).
>>>
>>>             If we create a substitute for the category page. It will
>>>             need to have a different URL. This will affect the
>>>             search function as I don't believe that we can remove
>>>             the existing category page as it's auto-generated. So
>>>             both our new page and the old category page will have
>>>             search hits. We *might* be able to put a redirect on the
>>>             current category page to our new page. I haven't tested
>>>             if this is possible.
>>>
>>>             If we can't create a redirect, we can just create a
>>>             pretty top to the current category page that is
>>>             formatted similar
>>>             tohttps://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet and
>>>             leave the nasty category stuff at the bottom of the
>>>             page. Not a great solution but a definite improvement.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             Neil Smithline
>>>             408-634-5764 <tel:408-634-5764>
>>>             http://www.neilsmithline.com <http://www.neilsmithline.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>>             On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Neil Smithline
>>>             <neil.smithline at owasp.org
>>>             <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','neil.smithline at owasp.org');>>
>>>             wrote:
>>>
>>>                 I agree that the default category page looks ugly.
>>>                 In general I'm not a big Mediawiki format fan.
>>>
>>>                 The category page is automatically generated.
>>>                 There's no need to add new pages to it. If you add a
>>>                 new page to the category, it will automatically
>>>                 appear. The cheat sheet guide is manually created
>>>                 via the template at
>>>                 https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Template:Cheatsheet_Navigation_Body&action=edit.
>>>
>>>
>>>                 So if we change the category page we'll either lose
>>>                 the automatic maintenance of the links or need to
>>>                 learn how to keep the automatic listing function
>>>                 available. Also, the "Category:" URL is special to
>>>                 Mediawiki and we're limited in the changes we can do
>>>                 (at least in a straightforward way). I'll see what I
>>>                 can google about monkeying with category pages.
>>>
>>>                 Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Neil Smithline
>>>                 408-634-5764 <tel:408-634-5764>
>>>                 http://www.neilsmithline.com
>>>                 <http://www.neilsmithline.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>>                 On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Jim Manico
>>>                 <jim.manico at owasp.org
>>>                 <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jim.manico at owasp.org');>>
>>>                 wrote:
>>>
>>>                     Editors,
>>>
>>>                     This download page ...
>>>
>>>                     https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Download
>>>
>>>                     ... is one of the top ten most popular pages in
>>>                     recent months.
>>>
>>>                     It looks awkward. Do you think styling this like
>>>                     https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Authentication_Cheat_Sheet
>>>                     or similar is prudent?
>>>
>>>                     Aloha,
>>>                     Jim
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> Neil Smithline
> 408-634-5764
> http://www.neilsmithline.com <http://www.neilsmithline.com/>
>

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