From colin.watson at owasp.org Fri Feb 15 08:58:36 2013 From: colin.watson at owasp.org (Colin Watson) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:58:36 +0000 Subject: [Owasp-website] New project page Message-ID: In one of the recent global conference calls, Samantha Groves asked for feedback by email about the draft new projects page. After providing some feedback, I asked Samantha if I could post it to a mailing list. here it is: ------ Samantha https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Test2test This is going to be a great improvement, but I'm not going to spend time writing about all the good things, like Tab:Terminology, just the things I think could be changed/improved. Others may well disagree, and I'd prefer to have sent this to an OWASP mailing list so the community can comment. I think quite a lot of my feedback relates to how this page's content relates to other parts of the site. It almost seems to be trying to be an new OWASP home page, replicating non-projects content that exists (better) elsewhere. Construction ------------------- Did I hear Dinis ask about wikimedia templating? That's vital to continue the effort and make sure everything is editable. Great idea having banner images, but these clash with each other, and it will not be sustainable to keep having to ask a designer to create them. Could there also be CSS-formatted ones? Tab: Welcome ------------------- The project inventory bullet points should be in the reverse order to what you have i.e. Flagship at the top. New people coming here probably want to get to the flagship projects first (only), so make it first in this list. I know that's not the order projects develop over time, but it doesn't matter here. Should "OWASP Project Inventory" be the first thing on this tab, moving the blurb stuff down? "Project handbook" should be a link to wiki version so it can be edited by the community (as Dinis suggested). "OWASP Project Inventory" seems to be in a different heading style to the two that follow, but they don't seem to be sub-headings. Order of tabs ----------------- I think "Welcome" should be followed immediately by "Project Inventory". Whilst "Starting a New Project" and "Project Assessments" are of interest to you (and the GPC), they won't be to most people who come across this page. Tab: Project Inventory ------------------------------ There are 3 things on here that need to link to wiki pages, not a single Google docs on 2 tabs). Tab: Marketing Materials ---------------------------- This seems to be far wider than Projects. Brand usage etc is already somewhere else on the site and those pages should be updated with links to the files here. Tis tab should then be about how Project leaders can promote their own projects - and not OWASP promo leaflets and general OWASP presentations. Especially not thinks like business card templates. Tab: Social Media ----------------------- The podcast and AppSec Tutorial series have very little to do with projects and should be removed. Tab: PM Information ---------------------- Why are GPC reports on here? They should be on the GPC wiki page (elsewhere). Your own information could be on the "Contact Us" tab instead, to reduce the number of tabs. Tab: Global Projects Committee --------------------------------------- The GPC already has a wiki page elsewhere in the site's structure - no need to duplicate content. Move these photos there. The bios should be wiki users' bio pages (since names are linked automatically from elsewhere). Tab: Contact US --------------- Can we have Contact EU??? Or maybe make it "Contact Us" ---------------