[Owasp-topten] OWASP Quotes Violation by Aspect Security for Sonatype

Christian Heinrich christian.heinrich at cmlh.id.au
Sun May 19 01:07:45 UTC 2013


On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Dennis Groves <dennis.groves at owasp.org> wrote:
> I consider Jeff and Dave to be founding members and indeed the reason that
> OWASP survived and flourished. Mark also believed in them, indeed he turned
> OWASP over to them; and Jeff and Dave gave OWASP stability and the OWASP > Top 10. Our beloved community would likely not exist, or would be entirely
> unheard of if not for their contributions.

Mark has stated that the Top Ten is abused for commercial vested
interest i.e. http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/107/404683/30/0/threaded.

Furthermore, Mark has left OWASP not once but twice, i.e.
 due to the broken promise that Aspect Security cease their continued
exploitation of OWASP due to their dominate influence of the OWASP

On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Dennis Groves <dennis.groves at owasp.org> wrote:
> Everybody here at OWASP to one degree or another should be first assumed
> to have good intentions - even when the community has been *seemingly*
> harmed. Our mission is based in altruismm and we all have various degrees of
> comfort with this selflessness and will all make different choices based
> upon our understating and commitment to altruistic behaviour.

I would not define "altruismm" as "... many of our customers have
contacted us after seeing our participation in OWASP." to quote

On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Dennis Groves <dennis.groves at owasp.org> wrote:
> Times changes many things, but we all owe respect to Dave and Jeff, first
> of all because we should treat others the way we want others to treat us,
> and second because without their contributions we would very likely not have
> an OWASP community to be part of.
> I ask the community to keep those rulse in mind when dealing with each and
> every member of OWASP, we have all paid a price to be here; and we have far
> more in common than not.

The undisputed fact is that Jeff Williams has been given significantly
longer than 19 days to address this in a discreet manner as he was
also involved in the creation of the Sonatype press release too.

Since Jeff Williams created
https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Quotes&action=history then he is
not "above the law" and his enforcement of
etc is these examples are nothing more than "selective judgement".

The OWASP Board must taken swift action in this matter since
has clearly been breached.

Christian Heinrich


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