[Owasp-topten] OWASP Quotes Violation by Aspect Security for Sonatype

Abbas Naderi abbas.naderi at owasp.org
Sat May 18 18:02:20 UTC 2013


Jeff deserves respect, and possibly Christian had a wrong tone,
but the accusations are true and require immediate action. No one can neglect that.

Do not let an improper behavior with a legal/organization ethical issue.

Thanks
-Abbas
On ۲۸ اردیبهشت ۱۳۹۲, at ۲۲:۱۹, Dinis Cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:

> This is quite a pointless and energy sucking conversion, which nothing good will come out of it.
> 
> There is also a high mix of issues which should be kept focused. After all this is the OWASP top ten list
> 
> Also Jeff deserves more respect than this
> 
> Dinis Cruz
> 
> On 18 May 2013, at 15:14, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
> 
>> Dennis,
>> 
>> Your ethics are way off base here.
>> 
>> Those who are "founders" and board members have an even deeper
>> responsibility to uphold the ethics, bylaws and fiduciary
>> responsibilities of this charitable organization. Non profit laws
>> clearly state that it's best to avoid even the appearance of conflict
>> of interest.
>> 
>> Jeff's company has partnered with Sonatype on studies and more. This
>> is a clear conflict of interest. Why not discuss the very high quality
>> OWASP project, Jeremy Long's "Dependency Check", instead?
>> 
>> I advise everyone who cares about this topic to read Christian's email
>> below in detail and review the links he provided. You can then judge
>> for yourself.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Jim Manico
>> @Manicode
>> (808) 652-3805
>> 
>> On May 18, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Dennis Groves <dennis.groves at owasp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> With all due respect,
>>> 
>>> I consider Jeff and Dave to be founding members and indeed the reason that OWASP survived and flourished. Mark also believed in them, indeed he turned OWASP over to them; and Jeff and Dave gave OWASP stability and the OWASP Top 10. Our beloved community would likely not exist, or would be entirely unheard of if not for their contributions.
>>> 
>>> Everybody here at OWASP to one degree or another should be first assumed to have good intentions - even when the community has been *seemingly* harmed. Our mission is based in altruismm and we all have various degrees of comfort with this selflessness and will all make different choices based upon our understating and commitment to altruistic behaviour.
>>> 
>>> Times changes many things, but we all owe respect to Dave and Jeff, first of all because we should treat others the way we want others to treat us, and second because without their contributions we would very likely not have an OWASP community to be part of.
>>> 
>>> I ask the community to keep those rulse in mind when dealing with each and every member of OWASP, we have all paid a price to be here; and we have far more in common than not.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Dennis
>>> --
>>> [Dennis Groves](http://about.me/dennis.groves), MSc
>>> [Email me](mailto:dennis.groves at owasp.org) or [schedule a meeting](http://goo.gl/8sPIy).
>>> 
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