[OWASP-TESTING] timelines

Daniel Cuthbert daniel.cuthbert at owasp.org
Thu Jun 23 09:19:16 EDT 2005


Can i make one small suggestion?
We concentrate on the actual content first, and when its nearly time  
for the peer review, we act on that then?
Otherwise we will get bogged down with the logistics of reviewing  
even before anything is done


On 23 Jun 2005, at 14:09, Yvan G.J. Boily wrote:

> Phew.. Never going to make it to the office if people keep  
> responding to my
> emails this quickly!
>
> The best solution would be (imho) for each person who is planning to
> contribute to make a list of key competencies; from this list, each  
> writer
> selects 2-3 reviewers.  E.g.  I would look for 2-3 others out of  
> the 40 who
> have an understanding of crypto to review my work.  The people  
> doing SQL
> injection would look through that list and select a few people.   
> This way we
> are not writing a document by committee; nothing ever works by  
> committee :P
>
> Just a thought..
>
> Regards,
>
> Yvan Boily
>
> .. Off to work ;)
>
>
> On 6/23/05 8:03 AM, "Eoin Keary" <eoinkeary at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Agreed, we need peer review.
>> But if we have 40 reviewers who's comments/ideas make it to the  
>> final draft
>> and how do we manage this?
>> Not everyone is going to agree on everything so we may need a  
>> mediator to
>> make an executive decision or what?
>>
>>
>>> From: "Yvan G.J. Boily" <yboily at gmail.com>
>>> To: Eoin Keary  
>>> <eoinkeary at hotmail.com>,<daniel.cuthbert at owasp.org>,OWASP
>>> Testing Mailing List <owasp-testing at lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [OWASP-TESTING] timelines
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:58:37 -0500
>>>
>>> Peer review.  As long as the document receives a high level of  
>>> review from
>>> all contributors it should be pretty good.  Everyone contributing  
>>> for
>>> sections has a stake in the final project, and I may only be  
>>> speaking for
>>> myself, but if the crypto section I am planning to write is  
>>> published along
>>> side other peoples work I will be reviewing the entire body of  
>>> work as
>>> pedantically as I review my own work.
>>>
>>> I would hope that others will do the same thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Yvan Boily
>>> On 6/23/05 7:34 AM, "Eoin Keary" <eoinkeary at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> How are we going to control the quality of the documentation?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Daniel Cuthbert <daniel.cuthbert at owasp.org>
>>>>> To: owasp-testing at lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OWASP-TESTING] timelines
>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:49:20 +0100
>>>>>
>>>>> No, the idea is that everyone is happy with the document.
>>>>> Ill just be the one guiding it and helping everyone getting  
>>>>> this 2nd
>>>>>
>>> phase
>>>
>>>>> out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok how does this sound....
>>>>> Everyone try and do their sections when they can, if you finish it
>>>>>
>>> next
>>>
>>>>> week or by end of august im happy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Jun 2005, at 11:37, Eoin Keary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Push it out by a month.
>>>>>> review shall be difficult and updates may take more than one
>>>>>>
>>> iteration.
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe suggest initial drafts of the sections to be in by Mid Aug.
>>>>>> Select a review panel (otherwise it shall be chaos).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan you have final say when a chapter is stable and "Gold  
>>>>>> standard"
>>>>>> state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Daniel Cuthbert <daniel.cuthbert at owasp.org>
>>>>>>> To: owasp-testing at lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>> Subject: [OWASP-TESTING] timelines
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:28:17 +0100
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry i should have mentioned the timelines involved here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am i mad in thinking around the 15th Aug is too close?
>>>>>>> I reckon it will take at least 6 weeks to do the final proof/ 
>>>>>>> re- org
>>>>>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>>>>> the doc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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