[Owasp-o2-platform] [Owasp-website] Forums (yes, I'm bringing this up)

Laurence Casey larry.casey at owasp.org
Thu Jun 23 09:22:05 EDT 2011

I did a long time ago. So long ago that all the work done to move it would
basically need to be done over. If we don't care about archives, then we
would only need to sync up the new groups. Moving to google and having the
archives is not supported. I did a hack of creating them as word docs and
uploading them, but that ultimately didn't work due to the number of


Another problem with google is that you have to have a gmail account to
post. I think they have added the ability to have owasp.org accounts now to.
Everyone would have to subscribe themselves as well.




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[mailto:owasp-website-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of dinis cruz
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:48 AM
To: Jason Li
Cc: Rory McCune; owasp-website at lists.owasp.org; OWASP .NET;
owasp-o2-platform at lists.owasp.org
Subject: Re: [Owasp-website] Forums (yes, I'm bringing this up)


Larry has already created all the mailing lists is Google Groups right?


Doesn't google groups gives us what we need? (web based forums and mailing
list distribution?)


I wanted to move the O2 Platform mailing list from mailman
(https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-o2-platform) to the its
equivalent in Google groups
(https://groups.google.com/a/owasp.org/group/o2-platform/topics?hl=en) and I
was going to write an O2 script to do this automation/move. 


Anybody wants to help me write and debug it?


It is actually not that hard, and I already have all the technology required
in O2 (for both fetching the data, parsing it, visualizing it and publishing


Sarah Baso (CCed) was also trying to use O2 to get some stats about the
mailing lists usage, so this would be a good thing for her too


Dinis Cruz

Blog: http://diniscruz.blogspot.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/DinisCruz
Web: http://www.owasp.org/index.php/O2

On 16 June 2011 09:36, Jason Li <jason.li at owasp.org> wrote:

I have a separate thread with Larry about setting up a VM to stage forums.
The research he did a few months back suggests Jive may be a good compromise
to merge mailing lists with forums.


Will follow up with him when I get back to the States.



On Jun 16, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Rory McCune <rory.mccune at owasp.org> wrote:


On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
<buanzo at buanzo.com.ar> wrote:

On 06/15/2011 06:49 PM, Mark Bristow wrote:
> I think it's time we finally got real about forums.  I can't believe that
there isn't some software
> out there that could take our Mailman database, convert it all over to
forums by thread (as ugly as
> it might be), make user acconts for everyone who has signed up, provide
them temproary passwords and
> do mail integration moving forward.
> There are a number of web designers/developers at OWASP I say we stand up
a test area and just start
> mucking around till it works, document it, test it, and transition.

We could probably get hypermail or something like that to read the mailman
mbox archives. Those
tools already split by thread. Then we just hook ourselves to, instead of
create an html archive,
inject to a mybb/phpbb/whateverwechoose forum database accordingly. Also,
I'd just use a fake
account for these imported messages, and just keep them as reference, and
have NEW discussions be
created by real forum accounts (probably linked to an @owasp.org account?).


It'd be good to sort something out for forums.  The challenge I've seen from
reading previous threads on this (IIRC) is that there's a desire for a
solution which allows for people to have both forums style access and
mailing list style access at the same time (roughly the way that Yahoo
Groups works).  I think that if we could solve that problem, then as Arturo
says, it would just be a question of sorting out a one-time import process,
to populate the archives.






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