[Owasp-o2-platform] Daniel on O2 and why you should send in your comments and criticisms

dinis cruz dinis.cruz at owasp.org
Wed Jul 14 10:35:20 EDT 2010

Please see below (and attacked) Daniel's great comments on O2 and what we
should do to make it better

I did asked him to send it to the list but he was not confortable in doing

Just for the record, I love criticism :)  (don't confuse the fact that I
will argue strongly about my ideas with the fact that I don't like hearing
what is wrong).

With time (in the little wisdom I think I have achived over the years) I
found that the 'only' objective way that I have to measure succcess and
evolution, is by analysing the types of critics and comments that I received
(I actually learned this from playing music and noticing over time the type
of comment and complaints was changing (altought the quantity was constant
:)  )

So, please don't worry about stepping on my toes and huring my O2 baby :) Me
and O2 have a very thick skin and in fact I think O2 is reaching fast its
Adolescence years and needs a good beating and grooming :)

Colin, do you want me to forward you email with commetns to?  :)


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: daniel cuthbert <daniel.cuthbert at owasp.org>
Date: 14 July 2010 15:24
Subject: Re: o2
To: dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>

Right here's the initial doc. My personal opinion, and remember it's
just that, is:

1: There is just too much information about O2 out there. Too many
websites with text that isn't helping the cause. I get the need for
having all three, but a drastic clean-up is required.

1.1 OWASP page.
Use this as a landing page. It should contain a brief introduction and
then links to the try-o2 site and the o2-platform one. NOTHING ELSE!
1.2 o2-platform page.
This can be the main development page if you like. Here you want to
list a brief overview and then download/updates etc
1.3 try-o2 page.
This is the first page anyone who wants to use it should go to. it
needs to be simple, so using the attached document, add that text into
there and make sure the categories are created. Nothing should be
mentioned about development releases, or new additions. That's not the
point of this site.

I want to help but don't want to seem like I'm stepping on toes. It's
your baby and I want to see it go forward but also know where many
projects go wrong with regards to explaining what it is they do.

On 14 July 2010 15:52, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
> Sorry, been super busy on active engagements using O2 (it is really making
> difference :) )
> Why don't you send you first draft + notes to the O2 mailing list and see
> we can get some extra help from there
> Dinis Cruz
> On 14 July 2010 14:04, daniel cuthbert <daniel.cuthbert at owasp.org> wrote:
>> oi? what's happening with that document??
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