[Owasp-Malaysia] Top posting vs Bottom posting - which one is OK for you

najmi.zabidi at gmail.com najmi.zabidi at gmail.com
Mon Jan 10 02:05:55 EST 2011


Sorry,
>From this netiquette;

http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:05 PM, najmi.zabidi at gmail.com
<najmi.zabidi at gmail.com> wrote:
> I do saw one, but nobody seems to unsubscribe(at least that I know)
> because it's the only software that actively being used. And the
> developer,is very quick in responding to emails. Nevertheless we just
> follow his style.
>
> Seems that bottom-posting being used by techie ppl & top-post by corporate ones.
>
> As here;
>
> " DO NOT TOP-POST and DO trim your replies!!! Top-posting is the
> annoying practice of replying to a message by typing your response
> above that to which you are responding. This is a Bad Thing™ because
> your readers will have to scroll down and extract the essential of the
> existing thread in order to grasp the context of your reply, and then
> scroll back up again to read your repl"
>
>
> However I'm not necessarily agree with this since if we're practicing
> "bottom posting", we still need to read the quote, unless if it was
> trimmed. But, top posting seems no different.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
> <sharuzzaman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This point is much more important, as quoted from the FreeBSD-chat mailing
>> list.
>>
>> -----
>>
>> 1. While top-posting is bad in the mailing list context, it is often
>> necessary in the corporate context. It took me a while to
>> appreciate this, but it's much easier for a secretary or a customer
>> support person to look through the bottom of an email for *all*
>> related correspondence than to dig through (possibly weeks-old or
>> months-old) email. You may have quoted what *you* think is
>> "relevant", but maybe you unknowingly omitted something important,
>> or maybe you didn't but the reader wants to be sure of that too.
>> If you quoted everything, you may as well top-post, rather than
>> force your reader to wade through pages of old stuff before getting
>> to your point.
>>
>> Most people are used to email in the corporate context and thus
>> used to top-posting.
>>
>> -----
>>
>> If you have worked in corporate environment (even if you are an Open Source
>> company), you will appreciate that the trail from the reply of top-posted
>> email, will help you to track the communication that has happen previously,
>> very easily.
>>
>> I have never seen any Open Source mailing list to scold their user for top
>> posting. If they do, they will lose their user very fast. Too picky, and too
>> controlling.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:48 PM, najmi.zabidi at gmail.com
>> <najmi.zabidi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting
>>>
>>> "Partially because of Microsoft's influence, top-posting is very
>>> common on mailing lists and in personal e-mail"
>>>
>>> 0_0
>>>
>>> It is my concern since there's mailing list outside (not .MY) who's
>>> the moderator is VERY CONCERN about top-bottom posting so,
>>>
>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2004-August/002565.html
>>>
>>> "while top-posting is annoying for old-timers on
>>> technical mailing lists, it's unfair to bash newcomers for it or to
>>> write "Top posters will not be shown the honor of a reply""
>>>
>>>
>>> We don't want such thing to happens.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
>>> <sharuzzaman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > but you replied at top?
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:38 PM, saiful <akusaiful at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> like bottom
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:33 PM, najmi.zabidi at gmail.com
>>> >> <najmi.zabidi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've hard time to use bottom posting especially when I use bottom
>>> >>> posting but people replied with top posting, so the practice is kinda
>>> >>> of useless.
>>> >>> Which one you prefer, and should we enforce bottom posting here in
>>> >>> OWASP-MY?
>>> >>> Or reply as you wish.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks.
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
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>>> >> side, trust me, I'm the one - akusaiful".
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
>>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
>>
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