[Owasp-Malaysia] Owasp-Malaysia Digest, Vol 26, Issue 23

AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR suhaimi at dvs.gov.my
Wed Dec 22 00:14:58 EST 2010


Thank you, but I am sorry C0r3 Machin3gun <c0r3machin3gun at gmail.com>, I do not understand this, be it serious or joke.

The digest mode still contains the same thing, plus additional byte on the contents. I wish the messages can be shortened, the signatures removed except for one.

I do not know if the digest mode really saves as far as downloading charge is concerns but definitely is reduces the number of time opening the mails. My concern is not address yet!

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Today's Topics:

   1. Ever wonder whos pays? (AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR)
   2. Re: Ever wonder whos pays? (Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan)
   3. Re: Ever wonder whos pays? (AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR)
   4. Re: Ever wonder whos pays? (Hasanuddin Abu Bakar)
   5. Re: Ever wonder whos pays? (AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR)
   6. Re: Ever wonder whos pays? (C0r3 Machin3gun)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:44:16 +0800 (MYT)
From: AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR <suhaimi at dvs.gov.my>
Subject: [Owasp-Malaysia] Ever wonder whos pays?
To: owasp-malaysia at lists.owasp.org
Message-ID: <31575423.21292985641198.JavaMail.SYSTEM at DRSuhaimi>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Dearest all

I've been enjoying the mails, albeit I know nuts abt programming in open source 

It's also nice to know that this is an alternative for easier communications among colleagues to the extend that some become very "friendly".

Nice to have long signature, so that not many can imitate, but digital signature with "copy and paste" makes it redundant

Imagine your Blackberry alerted you abt the mail and you opened it. When you come back from overseas CELCOM send you ana SMS saying that you will be charged by KB used at the rate applicable in the country. With the lenghty and friendly mails for you.

These are my suggestions, written in the terms used by "amsatul Qur'an" for consideration.


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:52:10 +0800
From: Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan <sharuzzaman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] Ever wonder whos pays?
To: "Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) Malaysia Local
	Chapter"	<owasp-malaysia at lists.owasp.org>
Message-ID:
	<AANLkTi=Msg2UEK29z7bvqyHzQEPSwM7zJcbAs07Qjt6Q at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Suhaimi,

You have option _not to read_ OWASP email while roaming.

Or, you can have your subscription to be mailed in digest format, or
more better, you can just read it from the web archive.

The choice is in your hand.

Login here to change to digest format:
https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
Goto here to read the archive: https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-malaysia/

Thanks.



On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:44 AM, AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR <suhaimi at dvs.gov.my> wrote:
> Dearest all
>
> I've been enjoying the mails, albeit I know nuts abt programming in open source
>
> It's also nice to know that this is an alternative for easier communications among colleagues to the extend that some become very "friendly".
>
> Nice to have long signature, so that not many can imitate, but digital signature with "copy and paste" makes it redundant
>
> Imagine your Blackberry alerted you abt the mail and you opened it. When you come back from overseas CELCOM send you ana SMS saying that you will be charged by KB used at the rate applicable in the country. With the lenghty and friendly mails for you.
>
> These are my suggestions, written in the terms used by "amsatul Qur'an" for consideration.
> _______________________________________________
> Owasp-Malaysia mailing list
> Owasp-Malaysia at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420
>



-- 
Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 11:12:00 +0800 (MYT)
From: AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR <suhaimi at dvs.gov.my>
Subject: Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] Ever wonder whos pays?
To: "Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) Malaysia Local
	Chapter"	<owasp-malaysia at lists.owasp.org>
Message-ID: <24819082.81292987315760.JavaMail.SYSTEM at DRSuhaimi>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

The problem is I do not know the content to decide "not to read" and I wish to be updated. Or may be I've not explored the options in my Blackberry. I indicated that my skill is very limited

Reading from archive? Well, it is as good as going to the Arkib Negara to read history, not the current history that is.

There is this disease among humans, they will jump as if all suggestions and critics are meant to condemn them. Kindly take some time to cool down and think about the reasons and logics of the suggestions. Would you be happy for somebody to reply "kawe nak potong rumput"? in the mails? I think this is an abuse use of the facility

Thank you
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan" <sharuzzaman at gmail.com>
To: "Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) Malaysia Local Chapter" <owasp-malaysia at lists.owasp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December, 2010 10:52:10 GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi
Subject: Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] Ever wonder whos pays?

Hi Suhaimi,

You have option _not to read_ OWASP email while roaming.

Or, you can have your subscription to be mailed in digest format, or
more better, you can just read it from the web archive.

The choice is in your hand.

Login here to change to digest format:
https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
Goto here to read the archive: https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-malaysia/

Thanks.



On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:44 AM, AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR <suhaimi at dvs.gov.my> wrote:
> Dearest all
>
> I've been enjoying the mails, albeit I know nuts abt programming in open source
>
> It's also nice to know that this is an alternative for easier communications among colleagues to the extend that some become very "friendly".
>
> Nice to have long signature, so that not many can imitate, but digital signature with "copy and paste" makes it redundant
>
> Imagine your Blackberry alerted you abt the mail and you opened it. When you come back from overseas CELCOM send you ana SMS saying that you will be charged by KB used at the rate applicable in the country. With the lenghty and friendly mails for you.
>
> These are my suggestions, written in the terms used by "amsatul Qur'an" for consideration.
> _______________________________________________
> Owasp-Malaysia mailing list
> Owasp-Malaysia at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420
>



-- 
Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 11:26:16 +0800
From: Hasanuddin Abu Bakar <bizkutrai at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] Ever wonder whos pays?
To: "Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) Malaysia Local
	Chapter"	<owasp-malaysia at lists.owasp.org>
Message-ID:
	<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:12 AM, AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR <suhaimi at dvs.gov.my> wrote:
> The problem is I do not know the content to decide "not to read" and I wish to be updated. Or may be I've not explored the options in my Blackberry. I indicated that my skill is very limited
>
> Reading from archive? Well, it is as good as going to the Arkib Negara to read history, not the current history that is.
>
> There is this disease among humans, they will jump as if all suggestions and critics are meant to condemn them. Kindly take some time to cool down and think about the reasons and logics of the suggestions. Would you be happy for somebody to reply "kawe nak potong rumput"? in the mails? I think this is an abuse use of the facility
>
> Thank you

My suggestion is to edit the option to digest mode
https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/options/owasp-malaysia
As I understand, there are some issues with other subscribers, not yours.
So, if you want people to agree with your suggestions, you shouldn't
use cynical words. Everybody will happy. Thank you.



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan" <sharuzzaman at gmail.com>
> To: "Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) Malaysia Local Chapter" <owasp-malaysia at lists.owasp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 December, 2010 10:52:10 GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] Ever wonder whos pays?
>
> Hi Suhaimi,
>
> You have option _not to read_ OWASP email while roaming.
>
> Or, you can have your subscription to be mailed in digest format, or
> more better, you can just read it from the web archive.
>
> The choice is in your hand.
>
> Login here to change to digest format:
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
> Goto here to read the archive: https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-malaysia/
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:44 AM, AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR <suhaimi at dvs.gov.my> wrote:
>> Dearest all
>>
>> I've been enjoying the mails, albeit I know nuts abt programming in open source
>>
>> It's also nice to know that this is an alternative for easier communications among colleagues to the extend that some become very "friendly".
>>
>> Nice to have long signature, so that not many can imitate, but digital signature with "copy and paste" makes it redundant
>>
>> Imagine your Blackberry alerted you abt the mail and you opened it. When you come back from overseas CELCOM send you ana SMS saying that you will be charged by KB used at the rate applicable in the country. With the lenghty and friendly mails for you.
>>
>> These are my suggestions, written in the terms used by "amsatul Qur'an" for consideration.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Owasp-Malaysia mailing list
>> Owasp-Malaysia at lists.owasp.org
>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
>>
>> OWASP Malaysia Wiki
>> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia
>>
>> OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
> _______________________________________________
> Owasp-Malaysia mailing list
> Owasp-Malaysia at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420
> _______________________________________________
> Owasp-Malaysia mailing list
> Owasp-Malaysia at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420
>


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:11:13 +0800 (MYT)
From: AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR <suhaimi at dvs.gov.my>
Subject: Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] Ever wonder whos pays?
To: "Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) Malaysia Local
	Chapter"	<owasp-malaysia at lists.owasp.org>
Message-ID: <17267842.161292990867088.JavaMail.SYSTEM at DRSuhaimi>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Thank you

I've set to digest mode. I hope this will reduce the number of bytes as well

I apologise if my words are cynical, I did not mean them. I'm trying to use the style as our Wholy Book

Thank you
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hasanuddin Abu Bakar" <bizkutrai at gmail.com>
To: "Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) Malaysia Local Chapter" <owasp-malaysia at lists.owasp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 December, 2010 11:26:16 GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi
Subject: Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] Ever wonder whos pays?

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:12 AM, AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR <suhaimi at dvs.gov.my> wrote:
> The problem is I do not know the content to decide "not to read" and I wish to be updated. Or may be I've not explored the options in my Blackberry. I indicated that my skill is very limited
>
> Reading from archive? Well, it is as good as going to the Arkib Negara to read history, not the current history that is.
>
> There is this disease among humans, they will jump as if all suggestions and critics are meant to condemn them. Kindly take some time to cool down and think about the reasons and logics of the suggestions. Would you be happy for somebody to reply "kawe nak potong rumput"? in the mails? I think this is an abuse use of the facility
>
> Thank you

My suggestion is to edit the option to digest mode
https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/options/owasp-malaysia
As I understand, there are some issues with other subscribers, not yours.
So, if you want people to agree with your suggestions, you shouldn't
use cynical words. Everybody will happy. Thank you.



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan" <sharuzzaman at gmail.com>
> To: "Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) Malaysia Local Chapter" <owasp-malaysia at lists.owasp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 December, 2010 10:52:10 GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] Ever wonder whos pays?
>
> Hi Suhaimi,
>
> You have option _not to read_ OWASP email while roaming.
>
> Or, you can have your subscription to be mailed in digest format, or
> more better, you can just read it from the web archive.
>
> The choice is in your hand.
>
> Login here to change to digest format:
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
> Goto here to read the archive: https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-malaysia/
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:44 AM, AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR <suhaimi at dvs.gov.my> wrote:
>> Dearest all
>>
>> I've been enjoying the mails, albeit I know nuts abt programming in open source
>>
>> It's also nice to know that this is an alternative for easier communications among colleagues to the extend that some become very "friendly".
>>
>> Nice to have long signature, so that not many can imitate, but digital signature with "copy and paste" makes it redundant
>>
>> Imagine your Blackberry alerted you abt the mail and you opened it. When you come back from overseas CELCOM send you ana SMS saying that you will be charged by KB used at the rate applicable in the country. With the lenghty and friendly mails for you.
>>
>> These are my suggestions, written in the terms used by "amsatul Qur'an" for consideration.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Owasp-Malaysia mailing list
>> Owasp-Malaysia at lists.owasp.org
>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
>>
>> OWASP Malaysia Wiki
>> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia
>>
>> OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
> _______________________________________________
> Owasp-Malaysia mailing list
> Owasp-Malaysia at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420
> _______________________________________________
> Owasp-Malaysia mailing list
> Owasp-Malaysia at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420
>
_______________________________________________
Owasp-Malaysia mailing list
Owasp-Malaysia at lists.owasp.org
https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia

OWASP Malaysia Wiki
http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia

OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:55:10 +0800
From: C0r3 Machin3gun <c0r3machin3gun at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Owasp-Malaysia] Ever wonder whos pays?
To: "Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) Malaysia Local
	Chapter"	<owasp-malaysia at lists.owasp.org>
Message-ID:
	<AANLkTi=mGZBNKBKU9pbKdU_Nq-5dSObY3sUGd2Oy_nOP at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

can i answer this?

$roaming = $_GET['roaming'];

if(is_set($roaming))
   $roaming = true;
else
   $roaming = false;
$blackberry = true;
$unlimiteddata = false;

if($blackberry)
   $unlimiteddata = true;

if($roaming == true && $unlimiteddata)
   echo "you pay for it!";
else
  echo "you have brain!";




On 22 December 2010 10:44, AHMAD SUHAIMI OMAR <suhaimi at dvs.gov.my> wrote:
> Dearest all
>
> I've been enjoying the mails, albeit I know nuts abt programming in open source
>
> It's also nice to know that this is an alternative for easier communications among colleagues to the extend that some become very "friendly".
>
> Nice to have long signature, so that not many can imitate, but digital signature with "copy and paste" makes it redundant
>
> Imagine your Blackberry alerted you abt the mail and you opened it. When you come back from overseas CELCOM send you ana SMS saying that you will be charged by KB used at the rate applicable in the country. With the lenghty and friendly mails for you.
>
> These are my suggestions, written in the terms used by "amsatul Qur'an" for consideration.
> _______________________________________________
> Owasp-Malaysia mailing list
> Owasp-Malaysia at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Malaysia
>
> OWASP Malaysia Wiki Facebook
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/OWASP-Malaysia-Local-Chapter/295989208420
>


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