<div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I don't think it's wise to make project leads, chapter leads and volunteers pay for the networking events. Unless<div>- it's really cheap (but then, no need to charge volunteers in the first place)</div><div>- or the chapters/projects pay for it (which is a left-pocket-right-pocket game for OWASP eventually)</div><div><br></div><div>We do not want to end up having a pricey "VIP networking event" only for the full-paying participants and OWASP volunteers organizing their own event (or just get-together) on the side. The social event is a great chance for regular conference visitors to meet OWASP leaders! The leaders should be seen as an asset that gets more people to join the social event! Same as the speakers! And the volunteers helping with the conference should get free attendance just for helping, obviously.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Björn</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Dirk Wetter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dirk@owasp.org" target="_blank">dirk@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Maybe I missed something during my vacation, but for the sake of our community I think<br>
here is some discussion and transparency needed with the decision makers.<br>
<br>
For the sake of our community it would be great to discuss also how we deal with volunteers.<br>
At the London AppSec I found it kind of unthankful that they weren't invited for the networking<br>
event. I know the get-together was horribly expensive (GBP 125 + VAT) but we are all<br>
one community.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Dirk<br>
<br>
<br>
On 20.08.2018 15:24, Avi D (OWASP Israel) wrote:<br>
> Wait, leaders are being /charged/ to attend – and /still/ not allowed to join the social<br>
<span class="">> dinner?? I can’t believe they’re doing that again, after it was such a negative affect at<br>
> AppSecUK…<br>
> <br>
>  <br>
> <br>
> What about the training, how can we register for that as leaders?<br>
> <br>
>  <br>
> <br>
> Avi D<br>
> <br>
>  <br>
> <br>
>  <br>
> <br>
</span>> *From:*owasp-leaders-bounces+<wbr>avi.douglen=<a href="mailto:owasp.org@lists.owasp.org">owasp.org@lists.<wbr>owasp.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces%2Bavi.douglen">owasp-leaders-bounces+<wbr>avi.douglen</a>=<a href="mailto:owasp.org@lists.owasp.org">owasp.org@lists.<wbr>owasp.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Jim Weiler<br>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2018 22:24<br>
> *To:* Brett Gravois <<a href="mailto:brett.gravois@owasp.org">brett.gravois@owasp.org</a>><br>
> *Cc:* <a href="mailto:owasp-leaders@lists.owasp.org">owasp-leaders@lists.owasp.org</a><br>
> *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-leaders] AppSec USA<br>
<span class="">> <br>
>  <br>
> <br>
> The overview page says chapter leaders pay $700 - <br>
> <br>
> Chapter Leader/Project Leader/Event Volunteer<br>
> <br>
>       <br>
> <br>
> $700<br>
> <br>
>       <br>
> <br>
> Includes conference program for two days, coffee breaks, lunch and  expo. Conference networking<br>
> event ticket is NOT included<br>
> <br>
</span>> I logged in with a previous AppSec login to <a href="http://myowasp.force.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">myowasp.force.com</a> <<a href="http://myowasp.force.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://myowasp.force.com</a>> with<br>
<span class="">> my OWASP email  and it found my chapter Leader badge.  The registration page had all the<br>
> various combinations and costs and there was one for 'Conference' for chapter leaders and it<br>
> was 0$. <br>
> <br>
>  <br>
> <br>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:00 PM, Brett Gravois <<a href="mailto:brett.gravois@owasp.org">brett.gravois@owasp.org</a><br>
</span><span class="">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:brett.gravois@owasp.org">brett.gravois@owasp.<wbr>org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>     I logged in a guest with my owasp email.<br>
> <br>
>     Also just noticed that this is almost right on top of Derbycon...<br>
> <br>
>      <br>
> <br>
>     - Brett<br>
> <br>
>      <br>
> <br>
>     On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Jim Weiler <<a href="mailto:jim.weiler@owasp.org">jim.weiler@owasp.org</a><br>
</span><span class="">>     <mailto:<a href="mailto:jim.weiler@owasp.org">jim.weiler@owasp.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>         Forgot to reply all - <br>
> <br>
>         What do you enter when registering so the system can identify you as a chapter leader?<br>
>         Register as Guest with your OWASP email? Or do we log in with one of our many OWASP<br>
>         accounts?<br>
> <br>
>          <br>
> <br>
>         On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Alex Lafrenz <<a href="mailto:alex.lafrenz@owasp.org">alex.lafrenz@owasp.org</a><br>
</span><span class="">>         <mailto:<a href="mailto:alex.lafrenz@owasp.org">alex.lafrenz@owasp.org</a><wbr>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>             All,<br>
> <br>
>              <br>
> <br>
>             Using the "Conference - Chapter Leader/Project Leader/Volunteer" option does reduce<br>
>             it to $0.00. It does not look there is an option to register for a training class<br>
>             using the same code however..<br>
> <br>
>              <br>
> <br>
>             Thank you,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
>             Alexander Lafrenz<br>
>             OWASP Inland Empire Co-Founder | Embedded AppSec Project Co-Leader<br>
> <br>
</span>>             <a href="mailto:alex.lafrenz@owasp.org">alex.lafrenz@owasp.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:alex.lafrenz@owasp.org">alex.lafrenz@owasp.org</a><wbr>><br>
<span class="">>             LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexanderhlafrenz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.<wbr>com/in/alexanderhlafrenz</a><br>
> <br>
>             ==== <br>
>             Disclaimer: OWASP does not endorse or recommend commercial products or services<br>
>             allowing our community to remain vendor neutral with the collective wisdom of the<br>
>             best minds in application security worldwide. <br>
>             ====<br>
> <br>
>              <br>
> <br>
>             On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Bil Corry <<a href="mailto:bil.corry@owasp.org">bil.corry@owasp.org</a><br>
</span><span class="">>             <mailto:<a href="mailto:bil.corry@owasp.org">bil.corry@owasp.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>                 It shows up as $700 for me as well.  I think it is based off a back-end list of<br>
>                 leaders and if you're not on the list, it doesn't show up as free.<br>
> <br>
>                  <br>
> <br>
>                  <br>
> <br>
>                 - Bil<br>
> <br>
>                  <br>
> <br>
>                  <br>
> <br>
>                  <br>
> <br>
>                 On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Milton Smith <<a href="mailto:milton.smith@owasp.org">milton.smith@owasp.org</a><br>
</span><span class="">>                 <mailto:<a href="mailto:milton.smith@owasp.org">milton.smith@owasp.org</a><wbr>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>                     FYI - That was the option I selected.  (Attached)<br>
> <br>
>                     —Milton<br>
> <br>
>                      <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
</span><span class="">>                         On Aug 16, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Martín Villalba <<a href="mailto:martin.villalba@owasp.org">martin.villalba@owasp.org</a><br>
</span><span class="">>                         <mailto:<a href="mailto:martin.villalba@owasp.org">martin.villalba@owasp.<wbr>org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>                          <br>
> <br>
>                         I was also able to register for free just fine for the conference<br>
>                         (talks) as a Chapter Leader.  As mentioned earlier, there's a specific<br>
>                         option that should show up for you that reads something like "Chapter<br>
>                         Leader / Project Leader / Volunteer", with a cost of $0.00 (free).<br>
> <br>
>                          <br>
> <br>
>                         Cheers,<br>
> <br>
>                         Martín.<br>
> <br>
>                          <br>
> <br>
>                          <br>
> <br>
>                          <br>
> <br>
>                         On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Brett Gravois <<a href="mailto:brett.gravois@owasp.org">brett.gravois@owasp.org</a><br>
</span><span class="">>                         <mailto:<a href="mailto:brett.gravois@owasp.org">brett.gravois@owasp.<wbr>org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>                             You have to choose the Chapter Leader option.<br>
> <br>
>                              <br>
> <br>
>                             On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 2:16 PM Owen Pendlebury<br>
</span><span class="">>                             <<a href="mailto:owen.pendlebury@owasp.org">owen.pendlebury@owasp.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:owen.pendlebury@owasp.org">owen.pendlebury@owasp.<wbr>org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>                                 I recommend reaching out to Dawn who will be able to look in to<br>
>                                 it. <br>
> <br>
>                                  <br>
> <br>
>                                 It worked for me <br>
> <br>
>                                  <br>
> <br>
>                                 On Thu 16 Aug 2018 at 21:15, Milton Smith<br>
</span><span class="">>                                 <<a href="mailto:milton.smith@owasp.org">milton.smith@owasp.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:milton.smith@owasp.org">milton.smith@owasp.org</a><wbr>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>                                     I notice it charged me.<br>
> <br>
>                                     —Milton<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
>                                         On Aug 16, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Owen Pendlebury<br>
>                                         <<a href="mailto:owen.pendlebury@owasp.org">owen.pendlebury@owasp.org</a><br>
</span><span class="">>                                         <mailto:<a href="mailto:owen.pendlebury@owasp.org">owen.pendlebury@owasp.<wbr>org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>                                          <br>
> <br>
>                                         Hi Brett,<br>
> <br>
>                                          <br>
> <br>
>                                         It’s using your leader badge and should automatically<br>
>                                         give you the discount when registering.<br>
> <br>
>                                          <br>
> <br>
>                                         There is no code required.<br>
> <br>
>                                          <br>
> <br>
>                                         Owen<br>
> <br>
>                                          <br>
> <br>
>                                         On Thu 16 Aug 2018 at 21:11, Brett Gravois<br>
>                                         <<a href="mailto:brett.gravois@owasp.org">brett.gravois@owasp.org</a><br>
</span><span class="">>                                         <mailto:<a href="mailto:brett.gravois@owasp.org">brett.gravois@owasp.<wbr>org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>                                             Is there a Chapter leader code? I don't think I saw<br>
>                                             anything about this, or it might be buried in my email.<br>
> <br>
>                                              <br>
> <br>
>                                             Thanks,<br>
> <br>
>                                             Brett Gravois<br>
> <br>
>                                             ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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</span>>                                             <mailto:<a href="mailto:OWASP-Leaders@lists.owasp.org">OWASP-Leaders@lists.<wbr>owasp.org</a>><br>
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> <br>
>                                         -- <br>
> <br>
>                                         Owen Pendlebury @pendo19 OWASP Ireland-Dublin<br>
>                                         <a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Ireland-Dublin" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.<wbr>php/Ireland-Dublin</a><br>
>                                         @AppSecIreland OWASP AppSec EU Committee/ Training<br>
>                                         Committee Chair <a href="https://2017.appsec.eu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://2017.appsec.eu</a><br>
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> <br>
>                                      <br>
> <br>
>                                 -- <br>
> <br>
>                                 Owen Pendlebury @pendo19 OWASP Ireland-Dublin<br>
>                                 <a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Ireland-Dublin" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.<wbr>php/Ireland-Dublin</a> @AppSecIreland<br>
>                                 OWASP AppSec EU Committee/ Training Committee Chair<br>
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