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    Azzeddine,<br>
    <br>
    I am very grateful you shared this with us. I am happy to hear you
    are getting support from the foundation that you need. If you need
    more of it please just ask!<br>
    <br>
    > For information Morocco Chapter will run the Security &
    Architecture tracks @DEVOXX Maroc 2015 (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
      href="http://www.devoxx.ma">www.devoxx.ma</a>).  I sent a lot of
    request for speakers, sponsors. NO THINGS, NO SPEAKERS.<br>
    So I wil run it by our self (we are 4 volonteer in this chapter).<br>
    <br>
    OWASP does partner event promotion : check out
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_AppSec_Conference">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_AppSec_Conference</a> for
    more details. This could at least help get the word out...<br>
    <br>
    Aloha,<br>
    Jim<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/12/15 11:02 AM, Azzeddine Ramrami
      wrote:<br>
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              <div>Actually I got a lot of help from OWASP Foundation.
                Thanks a lot.<br>
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              I have access to a large school for event in Rabat and
              Casablanca. For chapter it is OK.<br>
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            For CSRFGuard project I deliver a lot of support to
            community from my own time and I didn't get any donation for
            the project except from OWASP Foundation itself.<br>
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          Thanks for your reply. My objectives is to be constructive and
          move ahead.<br>
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        <div>For information Morocco Chapter will run the Security &
          Architecture tracks @DEVOXX Maroc 2015 (<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.devoxx.ma"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.devoxx.ma">www.devoxx.ma</a></a>). 
          I sent a lot of request for speakers, sponsors. NO THINGS, NO
          SPEAKERS.<br>
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        <div>So I wil run it by our self (we are 4 volonteer in this
          chapter).<br>
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        Azzeddine<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:45 PM,
          Noreen Whysel OWASP <span dir="ltr"><<a
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          wrote:<br>
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              <div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Azzeddine,</span></div>
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              <div>OWASP Foundation will reimburse chapters for meetup
                accounts (out of chapter budget or community engagement
                finding). Kelly and Fabio were looking into possibility
                of a barter account. That would be really nice. Chapters
                who use meetup should be sure to tag it as "OWASP" so it
                shows in the OWASP topic list on Meetup.<span class=""><br>
                  <br>
                  Noreen Whysel
                  <div>Community Manager</div>
                  <div>OWASP Foundation</div>
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                    On Aug 12, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Azzeddine Ramrami <<a
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                    wrote:<br>
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                            <div>You forgoet the more important
                              characteristics:<br>
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                            - Budget<br>
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                          A chapter with no budget cannot met one or
                          more characteristics as your wrote, so in your
                          point of view this type of chapter is not
                          "successful chapter" !<br>
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                        <div>So I agree with 2 et 3. No need for budget.
                          But I didn't agree with you about:<br>
                          <br>
                          1) They hold regular monthly meetings with
                          decent speakers   --> Who will pay the
                          location, the food, the speake cost, etc.<br>
                          4) Heck, Many chapters have seen a big bump in
                          membership just by using Meetup --> Meetup
                          is paid solution. Who can I pay? <br>
                          <br>
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                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>The same remarks for projects. <br>
                          <br>
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                        <div>Without budget, what do you propose to
                          chapter leaders to move to a successful
                          chapter ?<br>
                          <br>
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                        <div>Azzeddine<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at
                          8:10 PM, Jim Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                          wrote:<br>
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                            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Jay,<br>
                              <br>
                              Just a few notes while on the topic.<br>
                              <br>
                              The successful chapters I have seen have a
                              few characteristics...<br>
                              <br>
                              1) They hold regular monthly meetings with
                              decent speakers<br>
                              2) They have more than one leader helping
                              run the chapter<br>
                              3) They communicate well and list chapter
                              meetings on the wiki/meetings/etc well in
                              advance<br>
                              4) Heck, Many chapters have seen a big
                              bump in membership just by using Meetup<br>
                              <br>
                              Just a few thoughts to consider. I'm sure
                              others will jump in here.<br>
                              <br>
                              Aloha,<br>
                              Jim
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                                  <div>On 8/12/15 7:35 AM, Jay Schulman
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                    <p dir="ltr">I'd also like to see a
                                      session on keeping a chapter alive
                                      and active.  Keeping our members
                                      engaged and participating. </p>
                                    <p dir="ltr">My two cents. <br>
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                                      <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 12,
                                        2015, 12:33 PM Noreen Whysel
                                        <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:noreen.whysel@owasp.org"
                                          target="_blank">noreen.whysel@owasp.org</a>>

                                        wrote:<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">I am finalizing a
                                          program for a set of
                                          Chapter Leader Workshops at
                                          AppSecUSA and would love to
                                          get some feedback. We
                                          currently have a room during
                                          the AM sessions on Thursday
                                          and all day between keynotes
                                          on Friday.
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>I would like to do four
                                            hour-long sessions on:</div>
                                          <div>
                                            <ul>
                                              <li>People and Capital:
                                                who can help you (meet
                                                OWASP staff), how to
                                                recruit members and
                                                volunteers, what you can
                                                do with funding and how
                                                to know what you have.<br>
                                                <br>
                                              </li>
                                              <li>Jumpstarting a Chapter
                                                - The Basics: Overview
                                                of the updated chapter
                                                leader handbook, meeting
                                                formats, collaboration
                                                tools, social media,
                                                etc.<br>
                                                <br>
                                              </li>
                                              <li>Hosting a Conference
                                                or Training event: how
                                                to host a money-making
                                                event for your chapter,
                                                event formats, working
                                                with sponsors and
                                                speakers.<br>
                                                <br>
                                              </li>
                                              <li>OWASP Wiki
                                                Edit-a-thon/Hackathon:
                                                Intro to the <a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://owasp.org" target="_blank">owasp.org</a> wiki and tools you
                                                can use to develop your
                                                chapter wiki page and
                                                integrate external
                                                services.</li>
                                            </ul>
                                            <div>I am most excited about
                                              the Edit-a-thon. There has
                                              been some discussion on
                                              this list about how to
                                              better curate content on
                                              the wiki. I'd also like to
                                              explore APIs that can help
                                              integrate some of the
                                              internal and external
                                              content. Meetup has an API
                                              that should allow leaders
                                              to autopost upcoming
                                              events to their wiki page
                                              or to the mailing lists.
                                              How would you feel about
                                              having access to tools
                                              that help you integrate
                                              external resources into
                                              the wiki? What can we
                                              build to help us run
                                              chapters better?</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Are the above sessions
                                              something you would be
                                              interested in attending
                                              (project and chapter
                                              leaders welcome)? What
                                              time would you want to
                                              attend? I'm taking all
                                              ideas in consideration and
                                              your ideas as leaders are
                                              the most important. We
                                              want these sessions to be
                                              very interactive, tip
                                              sharing from seasoned and
                                              new chapter leaders.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Thanks.</div>
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                                                    <div>Noreen Whysel</div>
                                                    <div>Community
                                                      Manager</div>
                                                    <div>OWASP
                                                      Foundation</div>
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Global Board Member
OWASP Foundation
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                            <div>Azzeddine RAMRAMI<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                value="+33665489004" target="_blank">+33
                                6 65 48 90 04</a>.<br>
                              Enterprise Security Architect<br>
                              OWASP Leader (Morocco Chapter)<br>
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                            Mozilla Security Projects Mentor<br>
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            <div>Azzeddine RAMRAMI<br>
              +33 6 65 48 90 04.<br>
              Enterprise Security Architect<br>
              OWASP Leader (Morocco Chapter)<br>
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            Mozilla Security Projects Mentor<br>
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Global Board Member
OWASP Foundation
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