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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">+1. <br>
      <br>
      Spot on, Johanna. <br>
      <br>
      Best, Tobias<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 28/06/15 16:21, johanna curiel curiel wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote
cite="mid:CACxry_3F26CAa-JVejoyF-c2N9nL+zqGoEHKwP-GTJujZM_m2w@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">The summit should be about getting engaged in the
      project. What I have noticed in the time I have taken to read the
      projects and consume them wether code of docs, there are the main
      project leaders, investing their time to make it and occasional
      volunteers to help build or write.and sometimes or many times just
      one leader.
      <div><br>
        <div>The project leaders should not expect a large group of
          volunteers or users are going to show up for their project. In
          none of the summits I have attended this has happened. People
          do not want to work for free if they do not get something in
          exchange. Think of, what kind of things can motivate new
          people come to a summit, to meet you and work with you in the
          project.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>When I did a session in NY summit 2013' 15 people showed up
          for my session to discuss how to achieve PCI compliance
          faster. This is definetly a hot topic. So I focused on a topic
          to gather information for my project instead of focusing about
          my project itself.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>If every project attending can focus on a specific security
          topic highly controversial or close to their project, I assure
          you, you will have a group showing up to discuss it.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>2 days to work on a specific deliverable is also very
          productive, but again, if you have a group  of
          volunteers,those will be the one(s) showing up to work on the
          summit. If you have almost no volunteers, focus the agenda on
          a hot topic regarding the project, and use the sessions to
          discuss how to improve or gather information from peers trying
          to solve the same issues.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I will request an additional budget for a campaign through
          linked in, so we can get security engineers and pentester
          attend the summit. Think of you audience and what kind of work
          you want to get done during the summit.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Hope this helps clarify expectations of what the summits
          have been the last 2 years.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
          <br>
          On Sunday, June 28, 2015, Tom Brennan <<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:tomb@owasp.org">tomb@owasp.org</a>>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Alcon;
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Keep in mind OWASP has a cluster cluster of full
              time staff in USA in New Jersey and New York City and a
              short train ride from Maryland/Virginia.
              <div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>- Noreen</div>
                <div>- Kelly</div>
                <div>- Kate </div>
                <div>- Claudia - *new* project manager</div>
                <div><span></span>- Dawn - dedicated NJ Chapter
                  paid admin<br>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>I would recommend a New Jersey Summit!!</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>International airport (Newark Airport) we could
                    rent a hotel space (cashing in all those Hilton
                    Points OWASP has and does not use) for this property
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://m.hilton.com/mt/www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/new-jersey/hilton-newark-airport-EWRAHHH/index.html"
                      target="_blank">http://m.hilton.com/mt/www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/new-jersey/hilton-newark-airport-EWRAHHH/index.html</a></div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>It's affordable and easy to get to from airport
                    with included shuttle next to airport for 5 days if
                    needed.  The proximity to New York City is a
                    quick train ride.  It's in the middle of a Amtrak
                    route from Washington DC to Boston train too.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  If you break summit to code projects/document projects
                  summit that would be helpful.  Projects that have
                  budget would send a representative.  Projects without
                  budge would be funded by OWASP/OWASP Chapters</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>** I am sure there are other great and easy access
                  locations around the world. this should just be
                  considered as one of them to minimize cost and
                  maximize exposure for attendees in the USA.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>NJ chapter would also spend $10k of it's chapter
                  budget to make it happen in 2016<span></span></div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <br>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div><br>
                    <br>
                    On Sunday, June 28, 2015, Seba <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true">seba@owasp.org</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">It takes time to prepare a summit.
                        <div>Certainly if we do this on a larger scale I
                          would aim for March, not Autumn</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Seba<br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                            <div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:26
                              PM Eoin Keary <<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true">eoin.keary@owasp.org</a>>
                              wrote:<br>
                            </div>
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                              <div dir="auto">
                                <div>March is a long time away. Do you
                                  think Autumn would work?</div>
                              </div>
                              <div dir="auto">
                                <div><br>
                                  <br>
                                  Eoin Keary
                                  <div>OWASP Volunteer</div>
                                  <div>@eoinkeary</div>
                                  <div><span style="font-size:13pt"><br>
                                    </span></div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div dir="auto">
                                <div><br>
                                  On 27 Jun 2015, at 18:59, johanna
                                  curiel curiel <<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">johanna.curiel@owasp.org</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                  <div>Hi Seba
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I'm in to help :-)</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I'll check with the actual
                                      flagship project leaders who is
                                      interested to join in March </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Regards</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Johanna </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                      On Saturday, June 27, 2015, Seba
                                      <<a moz-do-not-send="true">seba@owasp.org</a>>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">hi Johanna, all 
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>We organized this as a 2
                                            day event:</div>
                                          <div>Day 1 was a "user day"
                                            with invited speakers, round
                                            tables & samm training.
                                            For this we asked 150 EUR to
                                            cover the venue/catering
                                            costs.</div>
                                          <div>Day 2 was the project day
                                            with the project volunteers
                                            discussing the project
                                            progress and working on
                                            deliverables.</div>
                                          <div>In total we had about 30
                                            people & had a great
                                            event, more details here</div>
                                          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.opensamm.org/2015/04/opensamm-summit-dublin-outcome/"
                                              target="_blank">http://www.opensamm.org/2015/04/opensamm-summit-dublin-outcome/</a><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>We had some help from
                                            Eoin & the Dublin
                                            chapter to find/organize the
                                            venue/social event.</div>
                                          <div>The rest was put together
                                            with the project team.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>We are planning for SAMM
                                            summits in autumn in NY and
                                            end of March in Europe.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>If the other flagship
                                            project leaders are game, we
                                            can replicate this model and
                                            scale up the SAMM summit
                                            next year to include all the
                                            flagship projects and create
                                            a fantastic OWASP Summit ?</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>regards</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Seba<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <div class="gmail_quote">
                                              <div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jun
                                                27, 2015 at 3:57 PM
                                                johanna curiel curiel
                                                <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">johanna.curiel@owasp.org</a>>
                                                wrote:<br>
                                              </div>
                                              <blockquote
                                                class="gmail_quote"
                                                style="margin:0 0 0
                                                .8ex;border-left:1px
                                                #ccc
                                                solid;padding-left:1ex">Seba
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>The summit
                                                  organized for SAMM had
                                                  a different format
                                                  than the Project
                                                  Summits we have been
                                                  organizing</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>There are training
                                                  for users</div>
                                                <div>Speakers invited</div>
                                                <div>People have to pay
                                                  150eur to participate</div>
                                                The summit had sponsors<br>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>More in a format of
                                                  a conference than the
                                                  traditional summit</div>
                                                <div>This off course
                                                  helps gather funds for
                                                  the projects and the
                                                  cost of the summit</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Imagine with did a
                                                  Owasp zap summit or
                                                  other projects using
                                                  the same structure</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                how did you organize
                                                this? Which team helped
                                                you put this together ?
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Regards</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Johanna</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                      On Saturday, June
                                                      27, 2015, Eoin
                                                      Keary <<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true">eoin.keary@owasp.org</a>>
                                                      wrote:<br>
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                                                        <div dir="auto">
                                                          <div>+1</div>
                                                          <div>As
                                                          mentioned how
                                                          does the 100k
                                                          (€£$¥)
                                                          breakdown? I'd
                                                          suggest we let
                                                          our events
                                                          staff look
                                                          into it with
                                                          guidance from
                                                          project leads
                                                          etc....</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          Eoin Keary
                                                          <div>OWASP
                                                          Volunteer</div>
                                                          <div>@eoinkeary</div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:13pt"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On 27 Jun
                                                          2015, at
                                                          15:19, Seba
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">seba@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          I agree, but
                                                          do not put the
                                                          cart before
                                                          the horse.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>First we
                                                          need a team of
                                                          owasp leaders
                                                          to put
                                                          together a
                                                          program,
                                                          venue, timing
                                                          and finally a
                                                          budget.</div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">$$$
                                                          should not be
                                                          the blocking
                                                          factor looking
                                                          at </span><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/11acTOmtmBGq6-5CIGsjlEByU8POSGqda0r23VNnhEGQ/pub"
target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/11acTOmtmBGq6-5CIGsjlEByU8POSGqda0r23VNnhEGQ/pub</a><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div>that is
                                                          how we did it
                                                          with the SAMM
                                                          Summit <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_SAMM_Summit_2015"
                                                          target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_SAMM_Summit_2015</a></div>
                                                          <div>this even
                                                          raised more
                                                          funds for the
                                                          project than
                                                          expected</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>regards</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Seba</div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">On
                                                          Sat, Jun 27,
                                                          2015 at 11:57
                                                          AM Eoin Keary
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">eoin.keary@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          style="margin:0
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                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">
                                                          <div>Sounds
                                                          good. </div>
                                                          <div>What's
                                                          the breakdown
                                                          of the 100k ?
                                                          (is that €,£
                                                          or $).</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Eoin Keary
                                                          <div>OWASP
                                                          Volunteer</div>
                                                          <div>@eoinkeary</div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:13pt"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On 27 Jun
                                                          2015, at
                                                          00:06, Dinis
                                                          Cruz <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">dinis.cruz@owasp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">And
                                                          then ask for a
                                                          a team or
                                                          OWASP leaders
                                                          to lead that
                                                          effort.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Josh and
                                                          Andrew can
                                                          provide more
                                                          details on the
                                                          context of
                                                          this request<br>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Dinis</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br>
                                                          <span>OWASP-Leaders
                                                          mailing list</span><br>
                                                          <span><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">OWASP-Leaders@lists.owasp.org</a></span><br>
                                                          <span><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-leaders"
                                                          target="_blank">https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-leaders</a></span><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                          OWASP-Leaders
                                                          mailing list<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">OWASP-Leaders@lists.owasp.org</a><br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-leaders"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-leaders</a><br>
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