<div dir="ltr"><div>While I certainly echo the sentiments of the group towards the tragedy in Nepal, I have concerns about the precedent that this would set.  We all have causes in addition to OWASP that we are passionate about.  For example, my grandmother died of MS and I make a contribution to an organization that supports research into that each year.  Can I now request to have my OWASP membership funds donated to that non-profit?  Before we know it, anyone can request funds donated to OWASP to go someplace else.  OWASP's mission is application security.  I think that Tobias hit the nail on the head when he said that we should be looking for ways that our money can help Nepal while at the same time fulfilling our mission.  Now, if Eoin wants to organize some sort of effort collecting personal funds from our impassioned leaders to donate to help Nepal, then I have no issues with that.  I really hate to be a buzzkill here, but as Board members it is our fiduciary responsibility to ensure that Foundation funds are being spent on fulfilling our mission statement.<br><br></div>~josh<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Eoin Keary <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eoin.keary@owasp.org" target="_blank">eoin.keary@owasp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Tobias, I'm certainly happy for OWASP to donate edgescans 2015 corporate membership funds and also Appsec 2015 silver sponsorship funds to a good cause like Nepal. I don't think such funds are ring-fenced in any way. </div><span class=""><div><br></div><div><br>Eoin Keary<div>BCC Risk Advisory - <span style="font-size:13pt">edgescan</span></div><div>CTO</div><div><br></div></div></span><span class=""><div><br>On 1 May 2015, at 00:46, Tobias <<a href="mailto:tobias.gondrom@owasp.org" target="_blank">tobias.gondrom@owasp.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div></span><div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
    
  
  
    <div>Hi Eoin, <br>
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      my heart and thoughts go out to the victims of this tragic
      disaster and their families. And I will donate from my own money
      to the relieve programs and encourage others to follow that
      example. <br>
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      But I do not believe, we as OWASP can use money donated to OWASP
      for the purpose of the OWASP mission and re-donate for another
      purpose. The funds we receive have been given to us for the sole
      purpose of the OWASP mission and it can create serious legal
      problems if we would attempt to re-purpose funds donated to OWASP
      for another task. <br>
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      So my suggestion is that people should donate to the helping
      charity organisations individually. Maybe you like to do so, too?
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      And if there are OWASP activities that are in line with our OWASP
      mission that could help our friends in Nepal through that, we
      should consider doing them. Maybe you have some practical ideas.
      Maybe there is an open source team that can help with some ideas
      or code a project for the rebuild. Or in a couple of months when
      Nepal is rebuilding, we host an OWASP chapter event and send a
      speaker to help rebuild activity in the Nepal security
      communities. Open for ideas.<br>
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      Best regards, Tobias<br>
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      On 30/04/15 22:01, Eoin Keary wrote:<br>
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      <div>Whatever works. I believe money travels faster but helping is
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      <div>I'd like to see if we can get approval first from the
        foundation?<br>
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        Eoin Keary
        <div>BCC Risk Advisory - <span style="font-size:13pt">edgescan</span></div>
        <div>CTO</div>
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        On 30 Apr 2015, at 18:42, John Patrick Lita <<a href="mailto:john.patrick.lita@owasp.org" target="_blank">john.patrick.lita@owasp.org</a>>
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          <div dir="ltr">Eion i agree +1, but if we Directly Buy Food
            and Water and Send them Directly to Nepal? we can Address
            the Goods one of our chapter in Nepal?<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 10:14 AM,
              Matthew Parsons <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mparsons@parsonsisconsulting.com" target="_blank">mparsons@parsonsisconsulting.com</a>></span>
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                  <div>+1 I agree with donating the money. </div>
                  <div>Matt <br>
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                          <div>I'd suggest the foundation donate €10,000
                            to the Red Cross. I'm sure from memory the
                            foundation has the funds.</div>
                          <div>Who's with me!!??<br>
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                            Eoin Keary
                            <div>BCC Risk Advisory - <span style="font-size:13pt">edgescan</span></div>
                            <div>CTO</div>
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                            <div><span>Hello Leaders,</span><br>
                              <span></span><br>
                              <span>The Nepal chapter lead Gaurab Raj
                                Pant has contacted me today,</span><br>
                              <span>and told me their situation.</span><br>
                              <span></span><br>
                              <span>================================</span><br>
                              <span>As I’m sure you already know, a
                                devastating 7.6 Richter scale</span><br>
                              <span>earthquake hit Nepal on the 25th
                                April 2015, at 11: 58 AM, destroying</span><br>
                              <span>many historical landmarks, houses,
                                roads and killing approx. 3725</span><br>
                              <span>people in 48 of 75 districts in
                                Nepal while the death toll still</span><br>
                              <span>continues to rise.</span><br>
                              <span></span><br>
                              <span>Continued tremors are still being
                                felt, meaning everyone is out on the</span><br>
                              <span>open area where ever they can find.
                                Should tremors continue (which has</span><br>
                              <span>stopped for the last few hours) and
                                if people are out like this, we</span><br>
                              <span>are likely to see huge challenge of
                                basic supplies like water and also</span><br>
                              <span>major public health disaster. If
                                tremors stop and people can go to</span><br>
                              <span>their homes and their life,
                                Kathmandu, for the most part, should be</span><br>
                              <span>fine. Outside Kathmandu, the
                                situation is severe. Thousands are now</span><br>
                              <span>homeless, have lost all supplies to
                                the quakes, students have passed</span><br>
                              <span>away, and community members continue
                                to cry out for help but to no</span><br>
                              <span>avail. From what we have seen in our
                                attempt to provide relief, there</span><br>
                              <span>has been no effort from the
                                government or other agencies in rural</span><br>
                              <span>Nepal.</span><br>
                              <span></span><br>
                              <span>Please help Nepalese.</span><br>
                              <span>================================</span><br>
                              <span></span><br>
                              <span>And he and his family are safe so
                                far, but living at tents in open space.</span><br>
                              <span>People need Medical, Tents, Cloths,
                                water purifier continuously, though</span><br>
                              <span> Red Cross has fed these. As for
                                chapter members, some could be</span><br>
                              <span> connected safe but still some are
                                not still connected, Gaurab said.</span><br>
                              <span></span><br>
                              <span>I do not have enough information to
                                help them but I strongly encourage</span><br>
                              <span>all of you chapter leads to find how
                                to help Nepal's people and society</span><br>
                              <span>from various ways.</span><br>
                              <span></span><br>
                              <span>Thanks,</span><br>
                              <span></span><br>
                              <span>Rio</span><br>
                              <span></span><br>
                              <span>-- </span><br>
                              <span>Riotaro OKADA</span><br>
                              <span>OWASP Japan Chapter</span><br>
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