<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Best of luck!!<br><br>Eoin Keary<div>Owasp Global Board</div><div>+353 87 977 2988</div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On 18 Jul 2014, at 20:47, "Timur 'x' Khrotko (owasp)" <<a href="mailto:timur@owasp.org">timur@owasp.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">I plan to nominate myself. I thought August 11 is the deadline, now I see it is better to register as candidate early... ,)</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 18, 2014 9:43 PM, "Eoin Keary" <<a href="mailto:eoin.keary@owasp.org">eoin.keary@owasp.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div>......when  did the process change from Open the Closed? It was open 2 elections ago and before...i memory serves....There was no publicised decision to make the nominee list closed....was there?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Opening the list is not a process change, like really? what effect shall it have apart from the "surprise" factor after call for nominees is closed.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>
<br>Eoin Keary<div>Owasp Global Board</div><div><a href="tel:%2B353%2087%20977%202988" value="+353879772988" target="_blank">+353 87 977 2988</a></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On 18 Jul 2014, at 20:31, Tobias <<a href="mailto:tobias.gondrom@owasp.org" target="_blank">tobias.gondrom@owasp.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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    <div>I agree with Josh in both points
      (should be open, but not to change an election process mid-way
      unless this agreed unanimously by all candidates). <br>
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      And there is no need to change the rules mid-way of this election.
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      Any candidate is free to announce her/himself that she/he is
      running at any time. <br>
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      Best wishes, Tobias<br>
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      Ps.: and we can discuss for next year whether and how we should
      change the procedure. <br>
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      On 18/07/14 20:14, Josh Sokol wrote:<br>
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        <div>Sarah stated that they got more candidates by not
          announcing it in advance because some people might not want to
          run if they perceive that there are other qualified
          candidates.  That was the operations team rationale at least
          and they seemed to have data to support it.  Ultimately, I
          agree that our elections should be open, but I don't think we
          should change the rules mid-way through the process unless we
          have full buy-in from all participants.<br>
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        ~josh<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Paolo
          Perego <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thesp0nge@owasp.org" target="_blank">thesp0nge@owasp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <p dir="ltr">The O still stands for open?</p>
            <div class="gmail_quote">Il 18/lug/2014 21:00 "Eoin Keary"
              <<a href="mailto:eoin.keary@owasp.org" target="_blank">eoin.keary@owasp.org</a>>
              ha scritto:
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                      <div>+1</div>
                      <div>Makes no sense.</div>
                      <div>And no reason for secrecy given.</div>
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                        Eoin Keary
                        <div>Owasp Global Board</div>
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                        On 18 Jul 2014, at 19:46, johanna curiel curiel
                        <<a href="mailto:johanna.curiel@owasp.org" target="_blank">johanna.curiel@owasp.org</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Normally in an election
                            process, candidates will go out there and do
                            promotion..(political campaign can I call
                            it?)
                            <div><br>
                              <div>But in this case i don't understand
                                why the names where kept hidden, its so
                                contradictory to an election vote
                                process that I actually don't understand
                                this decisions at all...</div>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 18,
                              2014 at 2:27 PM, Jim Manico <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank">jim.manico@owasp.org</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                  <div>Simon,</div>
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                                  <div>I am indeed running for the board
                                    again. Kelly recently asked me and
                                    the other candidates if it was ok to
                                    change the current policy. I let
                                    Kelly know that I am ok (and prefer)
                                    transparency over this issue.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Aloha,<br>
                                    <div>--</div>
                                    <div>Jim Manico</div>
                                    <div>@Manicode</div>
                                    <div><a href="tel:%28808%29%20652-3805" value="+18086523805" target="_blank">(808) 652-3805</a></div>
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                                    On Jul 18, 2014, at 4:03 AM, psiinon
                                    <<a href="mailto:psiinon@gmail.com" target="_blank">psiinon@gmail.com</a>>
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                                    <div>So far the <a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Polls" target="_blank">Poll</a>
                                                      shows a fairly
                                                      even split between
                                                      the yes, no and
                                                      maybe responses as
                                                      to whether people
                                                      would vote for
                                                      someone who was
                                                      not prepared to
                                                      announce their
                                                      candidacy in
                                                      advance.<br>
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                                                    This would appear to
                                                    indicate that
                                                    publicly announcing
                                                    your intention to
                                                    stand for the OWASP
                                                    board would be
                                                    advantageous.<br>
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                                                  <div>Obviously you
                                                    shouldnt make
                                                    decisions just based
                                                    on polls like this.<br>
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                                                  <br>
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                                                However I'm going to
                                                make my own position
                                                very clear.<br>
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                                              I will not be standing for
                                              the board this year.<br>
                                              And I will NOT be voting
                                              for any of the candidates
                                              who do not announce their
                                              candidacy prior to August
                                              19.<br>
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                                            If that means I am not able
                                            to vote for any of the
                                            candidates then so be it.<br>
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                                        Cheers,<br>
                                        <br>
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                                          <div>Simon<br>
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                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri,
                                          Jul 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Kelly
                                          Santalucia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kelly.santalucia@owasp.org" target="_blank">kelly.santalucia@owasp.org</a>></span>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Members of the OWASP
                                                Community,</div>
                                              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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                                              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
                                                I wanted to give you an
                                                updated on OWASP
                                                releasing the candidate
                                                names for the upcoming <a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/2014_Board_Elections" target="_blank">2014
                                                  Board of Elections.</a></div>
                                              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
                                                <br>
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                                              <div class="gmail_default"><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" face="arial, helvetica,
                                                  sans-serif">All
                                                  candidates were sent
                                                  an email earlier this
                                                  week asking if they
                                                  would support OWASP
                                                  releasing their
                                                  candidacy prior to <a href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/2014_Board_Elections#Election_Timeline" target="_blank">August
                                                    19.</a>  Out of the
                                                  7 candidates, one
                                                  replied "</font><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" face="arial, sans-serif">I
                                                  am indifferent to a
                                                  policy change at this
                                                  point. If you opt to
                                                  change the policy of
                                                  releasing candidates
                                                  names, I will go along
                                                  with it."  and the
                                                  other asked for
                                                  his/her candidacy to
                                                  be retracted. </font><font face="arial,
                                                  sans-serif">I have
                                                  personally reached out
                                                  to the remaining 5
                                                  candidates again
                                                  asking for
                                                  their thoughts. </font></div>
                                              <div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial,
                                                  sans-serif"><br>
                                                </font></div>
                                              <div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial,
                                                  sans-serif">As of now,
                                                  we will not be
                                                  releasing the names
                                                  until all candidates
                                                  have replied, and they
                                                  all need to be in
                                                  favor of it.  No where
                                                  is it noted that the
                                                  candidates can not
                                                  announce their
                                                  candidacy on their own
                                                  via social media, etc.
                                                  prior to August 19.  </font></div>
                                              <div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial,
                                                  sans-serif"><br>
                                                </font></div>
                                              <div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial,
                                                  sans-serif">I am happy
                                                  to reevaluate our
                                                  current election model
                                                  for the 2015 election.
                                                   If you would like to
                                                  be a part of this
                                                  discussion, please let
                                                  me know.</font></div>
                                              <div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial,
                                                  sans-serif"><br>
                                                </font></div>
                                              <div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial,
                                                  sans-serif">Kindest
                                                  Regards,</font></div>
                                              <div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial,
                                                  sans-serif"><br>
                                                </font></div>
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                                              </div>
                                              -- <br>
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                                                <div><b><i><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)">Kelly
                                                        Santalucia</span></i></b></div>
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