<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>As I did with the dc chapter. &nbsp;I wasn't contributing to the degree I thought necessary to earn the 'leader' title, so I resigned. &nbsp;Unfortunately many others don't act in such a manner. &nbsp;Normally, it's not a big deal, but with the conference, we're talking about 1) financially supporting them through free admission (which costs owasp money) and 2) allowing them to participate in discussions about owasp strategy, brand, etc without being appropriately invested.</div><div><br></div><div>Rex<br><br>On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Neil Matatall &lt;<a href="mailto:neil@owasp.org">neil@owasp.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>That sounds like another issue but I will not go there. &nbsp;I would gladly forfeit my "leader" title if I were not contributing.<div><br></div><div>Neil<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Rex Booth <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rex.booth@owasp.org"><a href="mailto:rex.booth@owasp.org">rex.booth@owasp.org</a></a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Those who become leaders for free conference admission are leaders in name only. &nbsp;We're not interested in rewarding people who aren't actual contributors.</div>
<div><br></div><div><font color="#888888">Rex</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br>On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Neil Matatall &lt;<a href="mailto:neil@owasp.org" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:neil@owasp.org">neil@owasp.org</a></a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br></div></div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Just curious, why is this such a bad thing? &nbsp;If leaders get in for free, wouldn't that motivate more to become leaders?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Jim Manico <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:jim.manico@owasp.org">jim.manico@owasp.org</a></a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Per the request of the OWASP AppSec conference leads, I
deleted the fact that OWASP Leaders get in for free from the blog post here:</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://owasp.blogspot.com/2010/10/appsec-dc-is-back.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://owasp.blogspot.com/2010/10/appsec-dc-is-back.html" target="_blank"><a href="http://owasp.blogspot.com/2010/10/appsec-dc-is-back.html">http://owasp.blogspot.com/2010/10/appsec-dc-is-back.html</a></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Man, you DC cats all freak me out. You need to visit us in
Hawaii more often. <span style="font-family:Wingdings">J</span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers guys. And sincerely, I hope you have a fantastic conference!
I’ll be more careful about posting info about DC events in the future.</p>

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