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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I love it.&nbsp; Not sure folks would
be so interested in advertising their &#8220;trust us&#8221; insecurity program.&nbsp; But I
suspect there might be a correlation between organizations w/ that policy and
open, unresolved XSS vulnerabilities so we can probably get that logo displayed
on their pages one way or another.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>:)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dan<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
owasp-leaders-bounces@lists.owasp.org
[mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces@lists.owasp.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff
Williams<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 21, 2009 9:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> owasp-leaders@lists.owasp.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Owasp-leaders] OWASP testing and disclosure levels<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I saw some twittering about this
sort of thing over the weekend&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The basic idea is that we could
create some OWASP standards around the way that companies allow their websites
to be tested/scanned/reviewed and how they want to handle disclosure of issues
that are discovered.&nbsp; Companies could choose the standard they want to
follow and it would encourage people to make that choice explicit and public
(visible).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We could do this pretty easily
in the OWASP Legal Project &#8211; the way that Creative Commons defined some IP
licenses and released them.&nbsp; I&#8217;m just not sure what the current practices
are.&nbsp; Has anyone catalogued a list of companies with either testing or
disclosure policies?&nbsp; See <a
href="http://www.microsoft.com/security/msrc/report/disclosure.aspx">Microsoft
policies</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Just as an off the top of the
head brainstorm, what do you think of these?? Of course we&#8217;d have to specify
these carefully and fully.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Full Disclosure &#8211;
disclose anything you find<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Responsible
Disclosure &#8211; work with us please<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Private Disclosure &#8211;
send it to us and pray<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>No Disclosure &#8211; we
will hunt you down and kill you<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Fully Open &#8211; code
review + test all you want<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Open Code Review &#8211; we&#8217;ll
let you review the source and test all you want**<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Open Test &#8211;
test&nbsp; with your account all you want<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Staged Test&#8211;register
and we&#8217;ll let you test on a non-production system<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>No Testing &#8211; you are
an evil hacker<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>** Note: I have already drafted
an &#8220;OWASP Open Code Review&#8221; license that grants people the rights they need to
do a source code review without giving up ownership or other legal rights.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We could combine these into a
few interesting combinations&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>OWASP Open Security
Program &#8211; Fully open review + full disclosure<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>OWASP Shared
Security Program &#8211; Open testing + responsible disclosure<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>OWASP Private
Security Program &#8211; Staged Testing + private disclosure<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>OWASP &#8220;Trust Us&#8221; <u>Insecurity</u>
Program &#8211; No testing + no disclosure<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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height=134 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01CA8224.6002CBF0"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Note that this is NOT a
certification program.&nbsp; This is a way for companies to *<b>declare</b>*
their approach to security.&nbsp; Your thoughts welcome&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>--Jeff<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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