[Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-board] Proposal for OWASP Global Chapters Committee

Bev Corwin bev.corwin at owasp.org
Sun Sep 9 15:58:39 UTC 2018


+1 Josh, I support Josh and will be happy to share our experiences with the
new Brooklyn chapter.

Bev


On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Bil Corry <bil.corry at owasp.org> wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> Josh had the same thought, he shared the same link in the first sentence
> of the first email in this thread:
>
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2018-September/019352.html
>
> - Bil
>
> On Sep 9, 2018, at 1:41 AM, Martin Knobloch <martin.knobloch at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Josh,
>
> Just to make sure everyone is on the same page on the committee policy and
> guidelines, I want to share this link:
>
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Governance/OWASP_
> Committees#OWASP_Committees_2.0_Operational_Model
>
> Kind regards,
> -martin
>
> On Saturday, September 8, 2018, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> This is exactly the kind of issues we are trying to address with this
>> committee.  If you have a question about how something should work or want
>> advice on how to do something, that shouldn't go into a support queue and
>> wait weeks for a response from a staff member.  Instead, my proposal would
>> leverage regional and global leaders with actual experience running
>> chapters to help answer these questions.  Even better, as a new chapter
>> leader, you should be partnered with a mentor from one one of our more
>> experienced chapters to help coach you.
>>
>> Any of our Chapter Leaders, or anyone else for that matter, interested in
>> furthering this cause, we don't need the Board or ED's approval to do so.
>> I've started a new #chapters channel in Slack for that purpose.  Come and
>> join us:
>>
>> https://join.slack.com/t/owasp/shared_invite/enQtNDI5MzgxMDQ
>> 2MTAwLTEyNzIzYWQ2NDZiMGIwNmJhYzYxZDJiNTM0ZmZiZmJlY2EwZmMwYjA
>> yNmJjNzQxNzMyMWY4OTk3ZTQ0MzFhMDY
>>
>> It's probably worth noting, however, that despite being asked for a
>> "civil discussion and substantive proposal", and providing what I felt was
>> a genuinely substantive step in that direction, I received a follow-up
>> e-mail from Karen saying that they'd like to put this proposal on hold for
>> two months while they hold three town halls to discuss the "holistic
>> sustainability of the foundation".  To put it another way, what I warned of
>> in my response to Greg's e-mail is exactly what the Board and ED were
>> looking to do, they just haven't been straightforward in their discussions
>> about it.  These conversations have been going on in closed door meetings
>> and private e-mail threads, and not on the OWASP-Board mailing list in the
>> spirit of openness and transparency.
>>
>> ~josh
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 12:39 AM John Patrick Lita <
>> john.patrick.lita at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I know all that we have problems with each chapters, and i hope that the
>>> global committee will also have a program from ASEAN Region.
>>>
>>> My Chapter in Philippines was idle for a while. I just notice that
>>> everytime there is a Conference in STATE no one can answer my questions or
>>> query because everyone is busy for Conference.
>>>
>>> I hope the support is flexible for me as a chapter leader i have so many
>>> question and need more guidance to make my chapter more productive and
>>> active to the community.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 11:51 PM Travis McPeak <travis.mcpeak at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> After discussing this with Josh, I'd like to say I misunderstood the
>>>> intent of the committee. I was concerned that this would turn into a lot of
>>>> endless debate with little action items. What Josh is proposing is the
>>>> exact opposite of this.
>>>>
>>>> When I started as a new chapter leader, I found a surprising lack of
>>>> resources or lots of outdated resources for me to draw on. With the volume
>>>> of experience we all have as chapter leaders there's no reason why common
>>>> problems like these shouldn't be addressed quickly with a
>>>> divide-and-conquer approach. Those interested can be empowered and
>>>> supported with the necessary resources to go make things better. I now
>>>> believe this is the intent of the committee and I look forward to the
>>>> awesome things that will come from a result of it.
>>>>
>>>> -Travis (Bay Area)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 1:26 PM Milton Smith <milton.smith at owasp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This seems like a great proposal to me Josh.  The committees
>>>>> operational model looks well written and considers OWASP committee
>>>>> organization/operations from the OWASP member perspective.  It’s great to
>>>>> have your knowledge and the knowledge of past leaders/staff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly OWASP is experiencing some growing pains.  We are looking at
>>>>> committees for this area but perhaps committees should be considered more
>>>>> broadly for other areas where diverse opinion exists?  Properly
>>>>> representing everyone’s opinions is difficult in a global organization.
>>>>> Josh and Martin your both amazing, you’ve both been improving the security
>>>>> space for many years, and I appreciate your leadership and enthusiasm for
>>>>> building a better OWASP.
>>>>>
>>>>> —Milton
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear OWASP Leaders,
>>>>>
>>>>> As per the OWASP Committees 2.0 Operational Model
>>>>> <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Governance/OWASP_Committees>,
>>>>> approved by a vote of the OWASP Board of Directors on July 16, 2014, I
>>>>> would like to formally propose the creation of a new "OWASP Global Chapters
>>>>> Committee".
>>>>>
>>>>> My rationale for the creation of this new committee is that our
>>>>> community has made a number of observations about inadequacies in the ways
>>>>> our Chapters interact with the OWASP Foundation, it's Staff, and the
>>>>> Board.  This committee would serve as a new form of governance within the
>>>>> OWASP Foundation, cutting red tape and empowering our chapter leaders to
>>>>> better serve the mission of OWASP while still adhering to the OWASP Core
>>>>> Values of openness, innovation, being a global community, and integrity.
>>>>> We will focus on strengthening the OWASP Chapters through education,
>>>>> networking, and driving value to our members.
>>>>>
>>>>> Topics that are within scope for the OWASP Global Chapters Committee
>>>>> include, but are not limited to:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - *Leadership Requirements: *The committee will be responsible for
>>>>>    defining requirements for new chapter leaders and create a community
>>>>>    vetting process.
>>>>>    - *Activity Requirements: *The committee will be responsible for
>>>>>    defining the minimum activity requirements for chapters and will
>>>>>    periodically review chapters for meeting those minimum requirements.
>>>>>    - *Mentorship: *Programs will be created to pair new chapter
>>>>>    leaders together with more experienced ones.  Budgets will be established
>>>>>    in order to facilitate mentees attendance of mentor chapter meetings.
>>>>>    - *Projects Partnership Tours: *To emphasize the importance of
>>>>>    projects, a budget will be established for projects to hold regional tours
>>>>>    of chapters where they will speak and show off their projects.
>>>>>    - *Budgets: *The committee will be a resource for OWASP policies
>>>>>    and procedures when it comes to the budget process and ensuring that it is
>>>>>    being followed.  The committee will help identify opportunities for chapter
>>>>>    leaders to spend their money.
>>>>>    - *Policy: *The committee will review and revise the Chapter
>>>>>    Leader Handbook on a periodic basis.  They will assess gaps in existing
>>>>>    policies and help to create new policies or redefine existing policies to
>>>>>    address gaps.
>>>>>    - *Guidance: *The committee will serve to help guide other leaders
>>>>>    with any questions that they have.  They will assist with finding
>>>>>    speakers.  They will help to recommend topics for presentations.
>>>>>    - *Feedback: *The committee will survey chapter leadership on
>>>>>    pertinent topics and be a listening outlet for chapter needs.
>>>>>    - *Conflict Resolution: *The committee will serve as a tribunal
>>>>>    for conflicts among and between chapters.
>>>>>    - *Local and Regional Events: *The committee will help to guide
>>>>>    chapter leaders on how to start and run local and regional events.  A
>>>>>    "startup" budget will be formed from existing event revenues in order to
>>>>>    seed investment in more events, helping additional chapters to be able to
>>>>>    raise enough money to cover their expenses and innovate.
>>>>>    - *Board Guidance: *The committee will work with the Board on any
>>>>>    initiatives they have as they relate to chapter policies, governance,
>>>>>    budgets, or otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> This scoping was developed by myself and Tiffany Long in an effort to
>>>>> cover many of the issues our chapters face on a routine basis.  It is not a
>>>>> comprehensive list and I'd certainly welcome suggestions from others in our
>>>>> community.  Moreso, it is my hope that others will be interested in
>>>>> participating in and contributing to this committee.
>>>>>
>>>>> Per the Committee Creation section of the Committees 2.0 Operational
>>>>> Model, this is now up for a community discussion with a Board vote to
>>>>> follow.  I hereby formally request that this be added as a topic for vote
>>>>> at the September 19th OWASP Board meeting.  Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Sokol
>>>>>
>>>>> OWASP Board Member 2014-2017
>>>>> OWASP Austin Chapter Leader
>>>>> OWASP LASCON Conference Co-Founder
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>>>>
>>>>
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>
> --
> Kind regards,
> -martin
>
> Martin Knobloch
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