[Owasp-leaders] Proposal for OWASP Global Chapters Committee

Ade Yoseman ade.putra at owasp.org
Sun Sep 9 02:36:23 UTC 2018

I"ll support you
I have help a few chapters in asia pasifics...


On Sunday, September 9, 2018, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:

> This is exactly the kind of issues we are trying to address with this
> committee.  If you have a question about how something should work or want
> advice on how to do something, that shouldn't go into a support queue and
> wait weeks for a response from a staff member.  Instead, my proposal would
> leverage regional and global leaders with actual experience running
> chapters to help answer these questions.  Even better, as a new chapter
> leader, you should be partnered with a mentor from one one of our more
> experienced chapters to help coach you.
> Any of our Chapter Leaders, or anyone else for that matter, interested in
> furthering this cause, we don't need the Board or ED's approval to do so.
> I've started a new #chapters channel in Slack for that purpose.  Come and
> join us:
> https://join.slack.com/t/owasp/shared_invite/
> It's probably worth noting, however, that despite being asked for a "civil
> discussion and substantive proposal", and providing what I felt was a
> genuinely substantive step in that direction, I received a follow-up e-mail
> from Karen saying that they'd like to put this proposal on hold for two
> months while they hold three town halls to discuss the "holistic
> sustainability of the foundation".  To put it another way, what I warned of
> in my response to Greg's e-mail is exactly what the Board and ED were
> looking to do, they just haven't been straightforward in their discussions
> about it.  These conversations have been going on in closed door meetings
> and private e-mail threads, and not on the OWASP-Board mailing list in the
> spirit of openness and transparency.
> ~josh
> On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 12:39 AM John Patrick Lita <
> john.patrick.lita at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Hi all
>> I know all that we have problems with each chapters, and i hope that the
>> global committee will also have a program from ASEAN Region.
>> My Chapter in Philippines was idle for a while. I just notice that
>> everytime there is a Conference in STATE no one can answer my questions or
>> query because everyone is busy for Conference.
>> I hope the support is flexible for me as a chapter leader i have so many
>> question and need more guidance to make my chapter more productive and
>> active to the community.
>> Thanks
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 11:51 PM Travis McPeak <travis.mcpeak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> After discussing this with Josh, I'd like to say I misunderstood the
>>> intent of the committee. I was concerned that this would turn into a lot of
>>> endless debate with little action items. What Josh is proposing is the
>>> exact opposite of this.
>>> When I started as a new chapter leader, I found a surprising lack of
>>> resources or lots of outdated resources for me to draw on. With the volume
>>> of experience we all have as chapter leaders there's no reason why common
>>> problems like these shouldn't be addressed quickly with a
>>> divide-and-conquer approach. Those interested can be empowered and
>>> supported with the necessary resources to go make things better. I now
>>> believe this is the intent of the committee and I look forward to the
>>> awesome things that will come from a result of it.
>>> -Travis (Bay Area)
>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 1:26 PM Milton Smith <milton.smith at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> This seems like a great proposal to me Josh.  The committees
>>>> operational model looks well written and considers OWASP committee
>>>> organization/operations from the OWASP member perspective.  It’s great to
>>>> have your knowledge and the knowledge of past leaders/staff.
>>>> Clearly OWASP is experiencing some growing pains.  We are looking at
>>>> committees for this area but perhaps committees should be considered more
>>>> broadly for other areas where diverse opinion exists?  Properly
>>>> representing everyone’s opinions is difficult in a global organization.
>>>> Josh and Martin your both amazing, you’ve both been improving the security
>>>> space for many years, and I appreciate your leadership and enthusiasm for
>>>> building a better OWASP.
>>>> —Milton
>>>> On Sep 1, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>> Dear OWASP Leaders,
>>>> As per the OWASP Committees 2.0 Operational Model
>>>> <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Governance/OWASP_Committees>,
>>>> approved by a vote of the OWASP Board of Directors on July 16, 2014, I
>>>> would like to formally propose the creation of a new "OWASP Global Chapters
>>>> Committee".
>>>> My rationale for the creation of this new committee is that our
>>>> community has made a number of observations about inadequacies in the ways
>>>> our Chapters interact with the OWASP Foundation, it's Staff, and the
>>>> Board.  This committee would serve as a new form of governance within the
>>>> OWASP Foundation, cutting red tape and empowering our chapter leaders to
>>>> better serve the mission of OWASP while still adhering to the OWASP Core
>>>> Values of openness, innovation, being a global community, and integrity.
>>>> We will focus on strengthening the OWASP Chapters through education,
>>>> networking, and driving value to our members.
>>>> Topics that are within scope for the OWASP Global Chapters Committee
>>>> include, but are not limited to:
>>>>    - *Leadership Requirements: *The committee will be responsible for
>>>>    defining requirements for new chapter leaders and create a community
>>>>    vetting process.
>>>>    - *Activity Requirements: *The committee will be responsible for
>>>>    defining the minimum activity requirements for chapters and will
>>>>    periodically review chapters for meeting those minimum requirements.
>>>>    - *Mentorship: *Programs will be created to pair new chapter
>>>>    leaders together with more experienced ones.  Budgets will be established
>>>>    in order to facilitate mentees attendance of mentor chapter meetings.
>>>>    - *Projects Partnership Tours: *To emphasize the importance of
>>>>    projects, a budget will be established for projects to hold regional tours
>>>>    of chapters where they will speak and show off their projects.
>>>>    - *Budgets: *The committee will be a resource for OWASP policies
>>>>    and procedures when it comes to the budget process and ensuring that it is
>>>>    being followed.  The committee will help identify opportunities for chapter
>>>>    leaders to spend their money.
>>>>    - *Policy: *The committee will review and revise the Chapter Leader
>>>>    Handbook on a periodic basis.  They will assess gaps in existing policies
>>>>    and help to create new policies or redefine existing policies to address
>>>>    gaps.
>>>>    - *Guidance: *The committee will serve to help guide other leaders
>>>>    with any questions that they have.  They will assist with finding
>>>>    speakers.  They will help to recommend topics for presentations.
>>>>    - *Feedback: *The committee will survey chapter leadership on
>>>>    pertinent topics and be a listening outlet for chapter needs.
>>>>    - *Conflict Resolution: *The committee will serve as a tribunal for
>>>>    conflicts among and between chapters.
>>>>    - *Local and Regional Events: *The committee will help to guide
>>>>    chapter leaders on how to start and run local and regional events.  A
>>>>    "startup" budget will be formed from existing event revenues in order to
>>>>    seed investment in more events, helping additional chapters to be able to
>>>>    raise enough money to cover their expenses and innovate.
>>>>    - *Board Guidance: *The committee will work with the Board on any
>>>>    initiatives they have as they relate to chapter policies, governance,
>>>>    budgets, or otherwise.
>>>> This scoping was developed by myself and Tiffany Long in an effort to
>>>> cover many of the issues our chapters face on a routine basis.  It is not a
>>>> comprehensive list and I'd certainly welcome suggestions from others in our
>>>> community.  Moreso, it is my hope that others will be interested in
>>>> participating in and contributing to this committee.
>>>> Per the Committee Creation section of the Committees 2.0 Operational
>>>> Model, this is now up for a community discussion with a Board vote to
>>>> follow.  I hereby formally request that this be added as a topic for vote
>>>> at the September 19th OWASP Board meeting.  Thank you.
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Josh Sokol
>>>> OWASP Board Member 2014-2017
>>>> OWASP Austin Chapter Leader
>>>> OWASP LASCON Conference Co-Founder
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>>> --
>>> -Travis
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Ade Yoseman
OWASP Volunteer <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Jakarta>
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