[Owasp-leaders] name dropping

Dirk Wetter dirk at owasp.org
Tue Jun 26 08:11:31 UTC 2018


Hi Tom,

what happened to your owasp.org e-mail-address?

I thought at least on the leaders list all should serve as a good example
and use owasp.org addresses only and refrain from hidden sponsoring.

Cheers, Dirk


On 16.06.2018 14:46, Tom Brennan - Proactive Risk wrote:
> Should be rather simple.. if you are a owasp project leader you get value (100% free entry) in
> trade for your code, content and labor time. You can even use project or chapter funds for travel.
> 
> That is the social incentive
> 
> OWASP Inc. is ultimately “selling” your project, your labor and your personal brand for tickets
> to attract new members and paying attendees inline with the mission of rasing visibility for
> software security... and  you are the product. These funds are used for programs (define them)
> and staff to support programs that must directly benifit the members and the greater good (non
> members) as that is the functional operation of a 501(c)3 not for profit.
> 
> The OWASP fund rasing events aka: conferences were designed to pull from the following list of
> projects during the CALL FOR PAPERS.  Imagine a owasp conference/summit where this was the
> focus, OWASP materials.
> 
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Project#tab=Project_Inventory
> 
> The incentive model is severely broken if someone who contributes labor hours and intellectual
> property is not a highlighted and celebrated member for doing what is the mission of the
> organization. They will find new associations to contribute to and participate with and what
> you will have is not the intended outcome that is to recharge the energy and collaborations of
> the participants.   If pay to play is the answer, the shark has jumped.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:47 AM dirk wetter <dirk at owasp.org <mailto:dirk at owasp.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Dawn,
> 
>     good to hear that, thank you!
> 
>     IIRC I used the plain attendee option as OWASP member incl. networking event from the
>     scrollbar and punched in the discount code in the beginning -- and also later on. Still was
>     asked to pay GBP 125...
> 
>     Cheers, Dirk
> 
> 
>     On Friday, June 15, 2018, Dawn Aitken <dawn.aitken at owasp.org
>     <mailto:dawn.aitken at owasp.org>> wrote:
>     > Speakers do not have to pay for the social event.
>     > Thank you.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Dawn Aitken
>     > (973) 658-6186
>     >
>     >
>     > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:36 PM, OWASP LOS ANGELES <richard.greenberg at owasp.org
>     <mailto:richard.greenberg at owasp.org>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> Speaking as a chapter leader, speakers should not have to pay for the social event.
>     >> Richard Greenberg, CISSP
>     >> President, OWASP Los Angeles, www.owaspla.org <http://www.owaspla.org>
>     >> ISSA Honor Roll and Fellow
>     >> President, ISSA Los Angeles, www.issa-la.org <http://www.issa-la.org>
>     >> LinkedIn:  http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardagreenberg
>     >> (424) 307-4440
>     >>
>     >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Dirk Wetter <dirk at owasp.org <mailto:dirk at owasp.org>>
>     wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>> Hi Karen and Martin,
>     >>>
>     >>> just tried to register as a speaker.
>     >>>
>     >>> Do I overlook something or do I have to pay for the social event too?
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Cheers, Dirk
>     >>>
>     >>> On 12.06.2018 11:30, Martin Knobloch wrote:
>     >>> > All,
>     >>> >
>     >>> > Colin is guessing correctly. Unfortunately, this year the social event will not be
>     free for
>     >>> > leaders.
>     >>> >
>     >>> > Kind regards,
>     >>> > -martin
>     >>> >
>     >>> >
>     >>> > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 11:18 Colin Watson <colin.watson at owasp.org
>     <mailto:colin.watson at owasp.org>
>     >>> > <mailto:colin.watson at owasp.org <mailto:colin.watson at owasp.org>>> wrote:
>     >>> >
>     >>> >     Timur
>     >>> >
>     >>> >     No, it is not your English, it is confusing to me too. "Conference event ticket"
>     sounds
>     >>> >     like access to the conference as you say.
>     >>> >
>     >>> >     I think they mean "the drinks/food evening event for conference delegates on
>     [day] is not
>     >>> >     included for complimentary conference ticket holders, but can be paid for as an
>     extra". 
>     >>> >
>     >>> >     But that's only my guess.
>     >>> >
>     >>> >     Colin
>     >>> >
>     >>> >
>     >>> >
>     >>> >
>     >>> >     On 11 June 2018 at 23:19, Timur 'x' Khrotko [owasp] <timur at owasp.org
>     <mailto:timur at owasp.org>
>     >>> >     <mailto:timur at owasp.org <mailto:timur at owasp.org>>> wrote:
>     >>> >
>     >>> >         Dear Karen,
>     >>> >
>     >>> >         sorry, I have a problem with interpreting the below terms probably due to my
>     English:
>     >>> >         "This complimentary conference registration is for the two day conference,
>     including
>     >>> >         coffee services and lunch.  This offer does not include the conference event
>     ticket. "
>     >>> >         Is there some sort of free tickets for leaders, but those are not effective
>     conference
>     >>> >         tickets?
>     >>> >         Also on the registration form when I choose 'Conference - Chapter Leader ...' and
>     >>> >         provide the EU2018-CLF code and my email, it returns with a "You have entered an
>     >>> >         invalid code" message.
>     >>> >
>     >>> >         Thanks, cheers,
>     >>> >         Timur
>     >>> >
>     >>> >
>     >>> >         On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Karen Staley <karen.staley at owasp.org
>     <mailto:karen.staley at owasp.org>
>     >>> >         <mailto:karen.staley at owasp.org <mailto:karen.staley at owasp.org>>> wrote:
>     >>> >
>     >>> >>                     Dear Chapter and Project Leaders,
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>                     Thank you again for your support and involvement in OWASP.  We
>     very much
>     >>> >>                     value your active participation in the foundation. 
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>                     As leaders of projects and or chapters within OWASP you are
>     entitled to a
>     >>> >>                     complimentary conference registration at *AppSec EU 2018.*
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>                     This complimentary conference registration is for the two day
>     conference,
>     >>> >>                     including coffee services and lunch.  This offer* does not
>     include the
>     >>> >>                     conference event ticket.* 
>     >>> >>                     If you wish you may purchase a conference event ticket under
>     merchandise
>     >>> >>                     in the registration system.
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>                     Here are the applicable codes for project and chapter leaders:
>     >>> >>                     *Chapter Leader Code - EU2018-CLF*
>     >>> >>                     *Project Leader Code - EU2018-PLF*
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>                     Registration for Complimentary Leader Conference
>     >>> >>                     <https://2018.appsec.eu/register>registrations will close Friday
>     22 June,
>     >>> >>                     2018 to allow us enough time for planning and preparation.
>     >>> >>                     When registering, please select the conference registration item
>     then
>     >>> >>                     submit the appropriate code above and the discount will be applied.
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>                     Please note the discount codes are available for chapter and project
>     >>> >>                     leaders only and not transferable.  Also this offer is extended
>     to active
>     >>> >>                     chapters only.  Please note each chapter and each project
>     receives three
>     >>> >>                     complimentary registrations.  Once the limit has been reached
>     the code
>     >>> >>                     will not longer be active.  
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>                     Marketing and Promoting AppSec EU 2018
>     >>> >>                     Help us generate high attendance at the conference in London! 
>     We kindly
>     >>> >>                     request that you promote the conference through your chapters
>     via your
>     >>> >>                     chapter meetings.  Please promote the conferences much as possible
>     >>> >>                     through your meetings various communications. The planning is
>     going well
>     >>> >>                     and we expect to have a great conference. If you need a hotel
>     room the
>     >>> >>                     headquarters hotel is listed on the hotel booking
>     >>> >>                     site: https://2018.appsec.eu/london/hotel  the rates you see
>     have already
>     >>> >>                     been negotiated for you. 
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>                     We look forward to seeing you in London!
>     >>> >>
>     >>> >>                     Thank you again for your dedication and support of OWASP!
>     >>> >
>     >>> >
>     >>> >             --
>     >>> >             *OWASP Foundation*
>     >>> >             Karen Staley
>     >>> >             Executive Director
>     >>> >
>     >>> >             karen.staley at owasp.org <mailto:karen.staley at owasp.org>
>     <mailto:kelly.santalucia at owasp.org <mailto:kelly.santalucia at owasp.org>>
>     >>> >
>     >>> >             Direct: +1 240.446.2951
>     >>> >
>     >>> >
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