[Owasp-leaders] Statement about the AppSec-EU 2018 and related events

Larry Conklin larry.conklin at owasp.org
Wed Jan 24 18:21:32 UTC 2018

 The move from Israel to the UK  was explained in OWASP Connector December
2017 sent 12/26/2017. Martin, well done on communication. We need this type
of communication much more often and not just from you but other board
members. in fact some board members seem never to join in discussions
outside of the board. Given that we can hardly call them board members of
the OWASP community. Our new boards members besides martin are we going to
hear from you?

I have never read anything as to why staff is leaving. pay?, unsatisfied
with work? etc.


On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 5:20 AM, Tobias Glemser <tobias.glemser at owasp.org>

> +1 Eoin
> From several chats I had with OWASP volunteers about this issue I feel we,
> the community, are deeply confused about the decision. OWASP is open and
> transparent. Board, go for it. Please.
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Hi Martin,
>> I may of missed this but It may be useful to cite reasons for the move
>> from Israel to the UK to keep alignment with our mantra of OWASP "radical
>> transparency".
>> What was the basis for the decision.
>> Eoin
>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:33 PM, Martin Knobloch <
>> martin.knobloch at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Dear OWASP community,
>>> As there have been quite a number of changes over the last number of
>>> months, the Global OWASP Foundation has faced a number of challenges. As
>>> you may be aware, three of our staff members have left the foundation,
>>> leaving a big gap in our day to day operations. This is not an excuse, but
>>> a reason why some processes both slowing down or even came to a complete
>>> halt. We are very happy to have found an Executive Director (ED) in Karen
>>> Staley. Since joining, Karen has been working hard to turn these challenges
>>> into opportunities and to allow OWASP to increase our organizational
>>> maturity and professionalism. I think it’s safe to say that the four newly
>>> elected board members and new ED, have had the most memorable start in
>>> their new position.
>>> We are all extremely passionate about OWASP and with this passion comes
>>> frustrations. Your frustration in relation to the lack of information/
>>> communication is understandable. As most of you were celebrating the
>>> Christmas and New Year holidays, the board were blindsided by these events.
>>> To this end the newly elected and sitting board members, together with our
>>> ED, were busy with the matters at hand. Given the time of year and the
>>> nature of the matter at hand, it’s easy to forget to communicate. We
>>> understand that the lack of communication on our part can make you assume
>>> nothing is happening.
>>> Even though there was no communication with the OWASP community at
>>> large, we want to ensure you that we were in constant communications with
>>> those involved and are working towards an acceptable path forward.
>>> As per previous mailing list communications, the AppSec-EU 2018
>>> conference will take place in the UK. Operational challenges are currently
>>> being resolved and information about the conference venue, location will be
>>> available as soon possible.
>>> Volunteers who have been working hard on organizing the AppSec-EU 2018
>>> conference in Tel Aviv and the OWASP Israel chapter especially, felt
>>> frustrated with the decision to move the conference and way it had been
>>> communicated. Those that have previously organized a global OWASP AppSec
>>> conference in the past know how much more complex it is to organize
>>> compared to a local event, even if the numbers of attendees are more of
>>> less the same. The decision to move the AppSec-EU 2018 conference to the UK
>>> has been made. We would like to acknowledge the effort of the organizing
>>> team, while realizing the required level of support from the foundation was
>>> not achieved.
>>> As OWASP board and staff, we see the huge burden it puts on the local
>>> chapter and leading volunteers. The OWASP board and staff recognizes the
>>> necessity of providing more professional support to the local chapter and
>>> volunteers to justify the expectations of our community and sponsors. With
>>> her extensive experience in organizing international conferences, our ED is
>>> working hard to do so.
>>> As you are aware, the board members are volunteers too and we do our
>>> best to act in the best interest of the OWASP community. OWASP is bigger
>>> than individuals or the board, OWASP is a community which is driven by it
>>> volunteers and we welcome your input in how we can improve OWASP to further
>>> our mission. Please be invited to the OWASP Board meetings
>>> <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Board>, the first meeting of the
>>> current board is January 24th
>>> <https://www.owasp.org/index.php/January_24,_2018>.
>>> Many times, those who shout the loudest are perceived in representing
>>> the community’s opinion. In the succession of the announcement the
>>> AppSec-EU to be moved from Tel Aviv to the UK, and the public statement
>>> that has been made articulating the frustrations about this decision,
>>> people from inside and outside the OWASP community felt the need to vent
>>> their opinions. As we are an open organization, I appreciate how
>>> forthcoming our community was.
>>> Nevertheless, in OWASP we have a clear policy of ethics, stating the
>>> expected professionalism in communication and respect towards each other.
>>> We as a community of professionals are required to set an example to the
>>> next generation and should therefore lead by example in respecting these
>>> ethics when communicating both privately and in the public domain.
>>> We will endeavor to improve our communications going forward and hope
>>> that this has not deterred any of the great OWASP community that have spent
>>> a countless number of hours volunteering to improve software security as a
>>> whole.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Martin Knobloch
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