[Owasp-leaders] template slides for meetup

Martín Villalba martin.villalba at owasp.org
Sun Dec 9 01:12:35 UTC 2018


Thank you everyone. The different templates and decks were of great help.
Very much appreciated!

Cheers,
Martín.



On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:16 PM Matt Konda <matt.konda at owasp.org> wrote:

> Timur,
>
>
>
> You raise a few good points that merit a detailed response that I hope all
> of the leaders will take a moment to digest.
>
>
>
> First, I would offer a counterpoint on the OWASP resources that are
> available (and say thanks to the VOLUNTEERS that made that possible):
>
> https://www.youtube.com/user/OWASPGLOBAL/playlists
>
> https://www.youtube.com/user/OWASPGLOBAL/channels
>
> I think these recent, detailed and wide ranging recordings of talks from
> people all over the world far outweigh the value of a powerpoint template
> for starting a chapter on the WIKI.
>
>
>
> Second, I would like to clarify a key point.  I’m not sure what people in
> the community think “OWASP HQ” does but it is definitely not curating the
> content on the WIKI.  In reality, it is all of us in the community that
> makes that happen.  If there is a failure, we have collectively failed to
> keep this content where we think it should be.
>
>
>
> As an additional counterpoint, you can see the community actively
> contributing to the WIKI:  Bjorn and Carlos and Jim Manico and many others:
>
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Special:ActiveUsers&offset=&limit=500&username=
> .
>
>
>
> What OWASP HQ (The Foundation) *does do* is handle lots of logistics –
> raising money, contracts, reimbursements, financial transactions,
> minimizing fraud (yes), event planning support, chapter support, project
> review and general infrastructure (Google Apps, email, JIRA, WIKI,
> SalesForce, QuickBooks, Discourse, mailman (may it rest in peace) etc.).
> Generally the unglamorous stuff that we in the community wouldn’t want to
> or know how to do anyway.
>
>
>
> Also, unfortunately, the OWASP Foundation Staff have been under-resourced
> for at least two years if not more.  It is something we on the board have
> worked hard on and invested in.  I wouldn’t argue that we’ve succeeded here
> but it is not for lack of trying.  We made progress in some areas and had
> setbacks in others.  Ultimately, as the security community grows and
> becomes stronger, the Foundation has lots of work to do to keep up.  I have
> strong hopes and there is evidence that in 2019 the Board will be well
> positioned to make further improvements.
>
>
>
> I’m not saying the Foundation is perfect or above reproach by any means,
> but I can definitely tell you from close experience that they are working
> their tails off to make OWASP better and it would be nice for the community
> to respect and understand their role better so that we don’t have
> mismatched expectations like this.  Let’s start with the assumption that
> everyone is working hard toward a positive goal and think about what we can
> bring to the table rather than what someone else didn’t bring to the table.
>
>
>
> In any case, if you see something you want to make better with OWASP, the
> power is literally in your hands to help do it.
>
>
>
> In this specific case, Timur, I would challenge you to work with Josh
> Sokol and Richard Greenberg to help bring to life a Chapters Committee 2.0
> to help improve the resources that are available to new Chapters and the
> support our community is able to give them.
>
>
>
> OWASP is an amazing organization and resource because of people *like you*
> and the community and all that they bring to it.  I challenge each and
> every one of us to find those ways that we can contribute.  Pointing our
> fingers at things that are wrong and trying to blame others is probably not
> the best way to build a thriving community …
>
>
>
> Given where we find ourselves, I also want to take a moment to
> specifically thank the large numbers of under-thanked and under-appreciated
> community members, staff and leaders.  We are so lucky to have an open and
> flourishing OWASP and it is because of all the things you all do.  Thank
> you all.
>
>
>
> Over and out.
>
> Matt
>
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>
>
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> *From: *"owasp-leaders-bounces+matt.konda=owasp.org at lists.owasp.org"
> <owasp-leaders-bounces+matt.konda=owasp.org at lists.owasp.org> on behalf of
> "Timur 'x' Khrotko [owasp]" <timur at owasp.org>
> *Date: *Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 6:51 PM
> *To: *"haral.tsitsivas at owasp.org" <haral.tsitsivas at owasp.org>
> *Cc: *"owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org" <owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Owasp-leaders] template slides for meetup
>
>
>
> Hey guys,
>
>
>
> if these are the presos OWASP HQ can offer, it's utterly disappointing. 13
> yrs old stuff, ppt formats, and a 2018 intro to bureaucratic metrics and
> the officials, which preso is also actually like 5 yrs old, just bit
> updated.
>
>
>
> It's imo a sort of strategic weakness that we don't have a repo of
> presentations on current and exciting topics that could help chapters not
> only to introduce the movement but also deliver standard knowledge, branded
> OWASP. Eg. reusable presos about the flagship projects, each in details,
> presos explaining owasp t10 in details, etc. Or do those exist?
>
>
>
> Imo if we set up a 4 meetups/yr requirement, let's provide a number of
> readymade, standard presos for delivering meetups on OWASP projects.
>
>
>
> For Martín I would suggest to have 2 slides about OWASP in general, not to
> make this part boring. And do micro intros to a couple of interesting,
> contemporary and useful OWASP projects, that can make a takeaway, not just
> a ritual.)) Eg.:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1NwEgrlmjUDRlTiDro_FeZzVmD8DyAqFB3mbewKK6d0o/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Timur
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:15 PM Haral Tsitsivas <haral.tsitsivas at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
> Did you check the OWASP wiki?
>
> You could start here:
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Presentations
>
> and with this:
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/File:Introduction_to_OWASP.ppt
>
> and this:
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10wi1EWFCPZwCpkB6qZaBNN8mR2XfQs8sLxcj9SCsP6c/edit?pref=2&pli=1#slide=id.p63
>
>
>
> On 12/6/2018 1:58 PM, Martín Villalba wrote:
>
> Anyone?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:33 PM Martín Villalba <martin.villalba at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
> Do we have any set of template slides for:
>
> * OWASP intro -- what is OWASP, chapters, projects, conferences, etc.
>
> * Code of conduct -- Harassment Policy
>
>
>
> I'm hosting my first meetup as the new Santa Barbara (CA) chapter leader
> and would like to do a quick intro about OWASP, and include a friendly
> reminder to be nice and mindful about other attendees :)
>
>
>
> I do not have any slides and rather avoid making them from scratch if any
> of you can share some I could use as a template.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Martín.
>
> Santa Barbara Chapter Leader
>
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