[Owasp-leaders] AppSec USA

Takaharu Ogasa takaharu.ogasa at owasp.org
Fri Aug 24 00:32:25 UTC 2018


How about create a new project to support funding volunteers party, free
conference ticket etc at major conference.
So we can donate solely for the purpose under OWASP rule.
The project utilize funds to buy tickets like 100 tickets and deliver to
the volunteers, funds parties etc.


2018年8月24日(金) 9:13 William Bengtson <william.bengtson at gmail.com>:

> If I understand correctly, active chapter leads get a free ticket to the
> conference. It's the network event ticket that isn't included. In the grand
> scheme of things this isn't a lot to ask for individuals to pay and it is
> not mandatory to go, however great chance to network outside of the
> conference main.
>
> If there is a chapter lead that can't afford it and other chapters that
> want to pitch in to help then great! You might even be able to justify with
> your company that you are getting a free ticket to the conference, that
> maybe they can pick up the network ticket.
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 17:55 Michael Allen <michael.allen at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I’m chiming in here as well. I’m a chapter lead for Chicago and do it
>> because I love the cause and the community. It takes a lot of personal
>> time/commitment to plan and host these events but to me, it’s worth it.
>> Outside of a food/venue sponsor, we don’t really spend any OWASP money.
>> It’s all personal time. I would love to see OWASP fund tickets for active
>> chapter leads if possible (e.g. if there is a large surplus) since I know
>> how hard it can be to plan these events on a regular basis and I think the
>> leads would benefit from attending. That said, if there are better things
>> to invest that money in that I’m not privy to, I’m supportive of that as
>> well. I just want it to be put to good, educational use.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Takaharu Ogasa <takaharu.ogasa at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1 My thoughts are with you Eoin. I guess it is good time to discuss what
>> we can do to help this situation.
>> I am thinking our chapter fund back to the foundation (although not much)
>> and let the foundation make use of new people to meet great OWASP people.
>> We started from nothing anyway.
>>
>> --
>> Takaharu Ogasa (@takaharuogasa)
>> OWASP Sendai Local Chapter Leader
>> OWASP A&D Project Leader
>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Sendai
>>
>>
>> 2018年8月24日(金) 8:26 Azzeddine Ramrami <azzeddine.ramrami at owasp.org>:
>>
>>> I agree. +1
>>>
>>> Le jeu. 23 août 2018 à 18:33, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Chiming in here for the first time is a long time.....
>>>> This is well thought out of I may say but chapter and project leads are
>>>> what makes OWASP. With the 2 events EU & USA, I think active chapter leads
>>>> and project leads should get a ticket as meeting other in person is always
>>>> a great benefit.
>>>>
>>>> When I was in the global board the foundation had a surplus of
>>>> $2,000,000, if this is still the case it’s a good investment to get people
>>>> together. Without good people OWASP is just a wiki!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> @eoinkeary
>>>> OWASP since 2004!!
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Aug 2018, at 15:02, Travis McPeak <travis.mcpeak at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I delayed responding to this thread because I can see it both ways.
>>>> Here's where I have personally ended up:
>>>>
>>>> As a chapter leader I can vouch for the countless hours of unpaid time
>>>> spent by my co-leaders and me on running our chapter. We do this because we
>>>> love the local security community and our sister communities in OWASP.
>>>> Wearing this hat, I think "damn, doesn't OWASP care enough to pay for my
>>>> party ticket?"
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand I have begun to see some of the financial struggles
>>>> the Foundation has been dealing with. I really appreciate that when I
>>>> submit an expense there are a team of people that make sure I get
>>>> reimbursed. The marketing at big conferences such as DefCon benefits all of
>>>> us, and yet my chapter didn't directly pay for it.
>>>>
>>>> At the end of the day we need to decide what kind of conference we're
>>>> running. Is it a working group of OWASP people and we invite some outsiders
>>>> to subsidize our costs, or is this a big flagship conference that pays the
>>>> bills all year?
>>>>
>>>> I think there is room for both, but in providing free conference
>>>> tickets the Foundation is essentially giving us the benefit of everything
>>>> that incurred fixed costs, mainly the venue, which is damn expensive.
>>>>
>>>> They are asking us to offset the additional costs that we create by
>>>> attending a party that probably charges by head. In my mind that's a fair
>>>> request to keep the Foundation running and doing the stuff I don't want to
>>>> do myself as a chapter leader. I'll be attending the party and paying for
>>>> the ticket out of pocket.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -Travis (Bay Area)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 5:14 AM Bjoern Kimminich <
>>>> bjoern.kimminich at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think it's wise to make project leads, chapter leads and
>>>>> volunteers pay for the networking events. Unless
>>>>> - it's really cheap (but then, no need to charge volunteers in the
>>>>> first place)
>>>>> - or the chapters/projects pay for it (which is a
>>>>> left-pocket-right-pocket game for OWASP eventually)
>>>>>
>>>>> We do not want to end up having a pricey "VIP networking event" only
>>>>> for the full-paying participants and OWASP volunteers organizing their own
>>>>> event (or just get-together) on the side. The social event is a great
>>>>> chance for regular conference visitors to meet OWASP leaders! The leaders
>>>>> should be seen as an asset that gets more people to join the social event!
>>>>> Same as the speakers! And the volunteers helping with the conference should
>>>>> get free attendance just for helping, obviously.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Björn
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Dirk Wetter <dirk at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe I missed something during my vacation, but for the sake of our
>>>>>> community I think
>>>>>> here is some discussion and transparency needed with the decision
>>>>>> makers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the sake of our community it would be great to discuss also how
>>>>>> we deal with volunteers.
>>>>>> At the London AppSec I found it kind of unthankful that they weren't
>>>>>> invited for the networking
>>>>>> event. I know the get-together was horribly expensive (GBP 125 + VAT)
>>>>>> but we are all
>>>>>> one community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers, Dirk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20.08.2018 15:24, Avi D (OWASP Israel) wrote:
>>>>>> > Wait, leaders are being /charged/ to attend – and /still/ not
>>>>>> allowed to join the social
>>>>>> > dinner?? I can’t believe they’re doing that again, after it was
>>>>>> such a negative affect at
>>>>>> > AppSecUK…
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > What about the training, how can we register for that as leaders?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Avi D
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > *From:*owasp-leaders-bounces+avi.douglen=owasp.org at lists.owasp.org
>>>>>> > [mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces+avi.douglen=owasp.org at lists.owasp.org]
>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Jim Weiler
>>>>>> > *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2018 22:24
>>>>>> > *To:* Brett Gravois <brett.gravois at owasp.org>
>>>>>> > *Cc:* owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
>>>>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-leaders] AppSec USA
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The overview page says chapter leaders pay $700 -
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Chapter Leader/Project Leader/Event Volunteer
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > $700
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Includes conference program for two days, coffee breaks, lunch and
>>>>>>  expo. Conference networking
>>>>>> > event ticket is NOT included
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I logged in with a previous AppSec login to myowasp.force.com <
>>>>>> http://myowasp.force.com> with
>>>>>> > my OWASP email  and it found my chapter Leader badge.  The
>>>>>> registration page had all the
>>>>>> > various combinations and costs and there was one for 'Conference'
>>>>>> for chapter leaders and it
>>>>>> > was 0$.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:00 PM, Brett Gravois <
>>>>>> brett.gravois at owasp.org
>>>>>> > <mailto:brett.gravois at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     I logged in a guest with my owasp email.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Also just noticed that this is almost right on top of
>>>>>> Derbycon...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     - Brett
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Jim Weiler <
>>>>>> jim.weiler at owasp.org
>>>>>> >     <mailto:jim.weiler at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         Forgot to reply all -
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         What do you enter when registering so the system can
>>>>>> identify you as a chapter leader?
>>>>>> >         Register as Guest with your OWASP email? Or do we log in
>>>>>> with one of our many OWASP
>>>>>> >         accounts?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Alex Lafrenz <
>>>>>> alex.lafrenz at owasp.org
>>>>>> >         <mailto:alex.lafrenz at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >             All,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >             Using the "Conference - Chapter Leader/Project
>>>>>> Leader/Volunteer" option does reduce
>>>>>> >             it to $0.00. It does not look there is an option to
>>>>>> register for a training class
>>>>>> >             using the same code however..
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >             Thank you,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >             Alexander Lafrenz
>>>>>> >             OWASP Inland Empire Co-Founder | Embedded AppSec
>>>>>> Project Co-Leader
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >             alex.lafrenz at owasp.org <mailto:alex.lafrenz at owasp.org>
>>>>>> >             LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexanderhlafrenz
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >             ====
>>>>>> >             Disclaimer: OWASP does not endorse or recommend
>>>>>> commercial products or services
>>>>>> >             allowing our community to remain vendor neutral with
>>>>>> the collective wisdom of the
>>>>>> >             best minds in application security worldwide.
>>>>>> >             ====
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >             On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Bil Corry <
>>>>>> bil.corry at owasp.org
>>>>>> >             <mailto:bil.corry at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                 It shows up as $700 for me as well.  I think it is
>>>>>> based off a back-end list of
>>>>>> >                 leaders and if you're not on the list, it doesn't
>>>>>> show up as free.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                 - Bil
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                 On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Milton Smith <
>>>>>> milton.smith at owasp.org
>>>>>> >                 <mailto:milton.smith at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                     FYI - That was the option I selected.
>>>>>>  (Attached)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                     —Milton
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                         On Aug 16, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Martín
>>>>>> Villalba <martin.villalba at owasp.org
>>>>>> >                         <mailto:martin.villalba at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                         I was also able to register for free just
>>>>>> fine for the conference
>>>>>> >                         (talks) as a Chapter Leader.  As mentioned
>>>>>> earlier, there's a specific
>>>>>> >                         option that should show up for you that
>>>>>> reads something like "Chapter
>>>>>> >                         Leader / Project Leader / Volunteer", with
>>>>>> a cost of $0.00 (free).
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                         Cheers,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                         Martín.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                         On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Brett
>>>>>> Gravois <brett.gravois at owasp.org
>>>>>> >                         <mailto:brett.gravois at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                             You have to choose the Chapter Leader
>>>>>> option.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                             On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 2:16 PM Owen
>>>>>> Pendlebury
>>>>>> >                             <owen.pendlebury at owasp.org <mailto:
>>>>>> owen.pendlebury at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                 I recommend reaching out to Dawn
>>>>>> who will be able to look in to
>>>>>> >                                 it.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                 It worked for me
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                 On Thu 16 Aug 2018 at 21:15, Milton
>>>>>> Smith
>>>>>> >                                 <milton.smith at owasp.org <mailto:
>>>>>> milton.smith at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                     I notice it charged me.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                     —Milton
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                         On Aug 16, 2018, at 1:13
>>>>>> PM, Owen Pendlebury
>>>>>> >                                         <owen.pendlebury at owasp.org
>>>>>> >                                         <mailto:
>>>>>> owen.pendlebury at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                         Hi Brett,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                         It’s using your leader
>>>>>> badge and should automatically
>>>>>> >                                         give you the discount when
>>>>>> registering.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                         There is no code required.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                         Owen
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                         On Thu 16 Aug 2018 at
>>>>>> 21:11, Brett Gravois
>>>>>> >                                         <brett.gravois at owasp.org
>>>>>> >                                         <mailto:
>>>>>> brett.gravois at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                             Is there a Chapter
>>>>>> leader code? I don't think I saw
>>>>>> >                                             anything about this, or
>>>>>> it might be buried in my email.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                             Thanks,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                             Brett Gravois
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> list
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>> >
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                         --
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                         Owen Pendlebury @pendo19
>>>>>> OWASP Ireland-Dublin
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Ireland-Dublin
>>>>>> >                                         @AppSecIreland OWASP AppSec
>>>>>> EU Committee/ Training
>>>>>> >                                         Committee Chair
>>>>>> https://2017.appsec.eu
>>>>>> >                                         <https://2017.appsec.eu/>
>>>>>> @appseceu
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>> >
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                 --
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                                 Owen Pendlebury @pendo19 OWASP
>>>>>> Ireland-Dublin
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Ireland-Dublin @AppSecIreland
>>>>>> >                                 OWASP AppSec EU Committee/ Training
>>>>>> Committee Chair
>>>>>> >                                 https://2017.appsec.eu <
>>>>>> https://2017.appsec.eu/> @appseceu
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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