[Owasp-leaders] AppSec USA

Azzeddine Ramrami azzeddine.ramrami at owasp.org
Thu Aug 23 23:22:31 UTC 2018


I agree. +1

Le jeu. 23 août 2018 à 18:33, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org> a écrit :

> Chiming in here for the first time is a long time.....
> This is well thought out of I may say but chapter and project leads are
> what makes OWASP. With the 2 events EU & USA, I think active chapter leads
> and project leads should get a ticket as meeting other in person is always
> a great benefit.
>
> When I was in the global board the foundation had a surplus of $2,000,000,
> if this is still the case it’s a good investment to get people together.
> Without good people OWASP is just a wiki!!
>
>
> @eoinkeary
> OWASP since 2004!!
>
> On 23 Aug 2018, at 15:02, Travis McPeak <travis.mcpeak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I delayed responding to this thread because I can see it both ways. Here's
> where I have personally ended up:
>
> As a chapter leader I can vouch for the countless hours of unpaid time
> spent by my co-leaders and me on running our chapter. We do this because we
> love the local security community and our sister communities in OWASP.
> Wearing this hat, I think "damn, doesn't OWASP care enough to pay for my
> party ticket?"
>
> On the other hand I have begun to see some of the financial struggles the
> Foundation has been dealing with. I really appreciate that when I submit an
> expense there are a team of people that make sure I get reimbursed. The
> marketing at big conferences such as DefCon benefits all of us, and yet my
> chapter didn't directly pay for it.
>
> At the end of the day we need to decide what kind of conference we're
> running. Is it a working group of OWASP people and we invite some outsiders
> to subsidize our costs, or is this a big flagship conference that pays the
> bills all year?
>
> I think there is room for both, but in providing free conference tickets
> the Foundation is essentially giving us the benefit of everything that
> incurred fixed costs, mainly the venue, which is damn expensive.
>
> They are asking us to offset the additional costs that we create by
> attending a party that probably charges by head. In my mind that's a fair
> request to keep the Foundation running and doing the stuff I don't want to
> do myself as a chapter leader. I'll be attending the party and paying for
> the ticket out of pocket.
>
> Thanks,
> -Travis (Bay Area)
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 5:14 AM Bjoern Kimminich <bjoern.kimminich at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I don't think it's wise to make project leads, chapter leads and
>> volunteers pay for the networking events. Unless
>> - it's really cheap (but then, no need to charge volunteers in the first
>> place)
>> - or the chapters/projects pay for it (which is a
>> left-pocket-right-pocket game for OWASP eventually)
>>
>> We do not want to end up having a pricey "VIP networking event" only for
>> the full-paying participants and OWASP volunteers organizing their own
>> event (or just get-together) on the side. The social event is a great
>> chance for regular conference visitors to meet OWASP leaders! The leaders
>> should be seen as an asset that gets more people to join the social event!
>> Same as the speakers! And the volunteers helping with the conference should
>> get free attendance just for helping, obviously.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Björn
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Dirk Wetter <dirk at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe I missed something during my vacation, but for the sake of our
>>> community I think
>>> here is some discussion and transparency needed with the decision makers.
>>>
>>> For the sake of our community it would be great to discuss also how we
>>> deal with volunteers.
>>> At the London AppSec I found it kind of unthankful that they weren't
>>> invited for the networking
>>> event. I know the get-together was horribly expensive (GBP 125 + VAT)
>>> but we are all
>>> one community.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Dirk
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20.08.2018 15:24, Avi D (OWASP Israel) wrote:
>>> > Wait, leaders are being /charged/ to attend – and /still/ not allowed
>>> to join the social
>>> > dinner?? I can’t believe they’re doing that again, after it was such a
>>> negative affect at
>>> > AppSecUK…
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > What about the training, how can we register for that as leaders?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Avi D
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *From:*owasp-leaders-bounces+avi.douglen=owasp.org at lists.owasp.org
>>> > [mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces+avi.douglen=owasp.org at lists.owasp.org]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Jim Weiler
>>> > *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2018 22:24
>>> > *To:* Brett Gravois <brett.gravois at owasp.org>
>>> > *Cc:* owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-leaders] AppSec USA
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The overview page says chapter leaders pay $700 -
>>> >
>>> > Chapter Leader/Project Leader/Event Volunteer
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > $700
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Includes conference program for two days, coffee breaks, lunch and
>>>  expo. Conference networking
>>> > event ticket is NOT included
>>> >
>>> > I logged in with a previous AppSec login to myowasp.force.com <
>>> http://myowasp.force.com> with
>>> > my OWASP email  and it found my chapter Leader badge.  The
>>> registration page had all the
>>> > various combinations and costs and there was one for 'Conference' for
>>> chapter leaders and it
>>> > was 0$.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:00 PM, Brett Gravois <
>>> brett.gravois at owasp.org
>>> > <mailto:brett.gravois at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     I logged in a guest with my owasp email.
>>> >
>>> >     Also just noticed that this is almost right on top of Derbycon...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     - Brett
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Jim Weiler <jim.weiler at owasp.org
>>> >     <mailto:jim.weiler at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >         Forgot to reply all -
>>> >
>>> >         What do you enter when registering so the system can identify
>>> you as a chapter leader?
>>> >         Register as Guest with your OWASP email? Or do we log in with
>>> one of our many OWASP
>>> >         accounts?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >         On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Alex Lafrenz <
>>> alex.lafrenz at owasp.org
>>> >         <mailto:alex.lafrenz at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >             All,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >             Using the "Conference - Chapter Leader/Project
>>> Leader/Volunteer" option does reduce
>>> >             it to $0.00. It does not look there is an option to
>>> register for a training class
>>> >             using the same code however..
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >             Thank you,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >             Alexander Lafrenz
>>> >             OWASP Inland Empire Co-Founder | Embedded AppSec Project
>>> Co-Leader
>>> >
>>> >             alex.lafrenz at owasp.org <mailto:alex.lafrenz at owasp.org>
>>> >             LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexanderhlafrenz
>>> >
>>> >             ====
>>> >             Disclaimer: OWASP does not endorse or recommend commercial
>>> products or services
>>> >             allowing our community to remain vendor neutral with the
>>> collective wisdom of the
>>> >             best minds in application security worldwide.
>>> >             ====
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >             On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Bil Corry <
>>> bil.corry at owasp.org
>>> >             <mailto:bil.corry at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                 It shows up as $700 for me as well.  I think it is
>>> based off a back-end list of
>>> >                 leaders and if you're not on the list, it doesn't show
>>> up as free.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                 - Bil
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                 On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Milton Smith <
>>> milton.smith at owasp.org
>>> >                 <mailto:milton.smith at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                     FYI - That was the option I selected.  (Attached)
>>> >
>>> >                     —Milton
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                         On Aug 16, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Martín Villalba <
>>> martin.villalba at owasp.org
>>> >                         <mailto:martin.villalba at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                         I was also able to register for free just fine
>>> for the conference
>>> >                         (talks) as a Chapter Leader.  As mentioned
>>> earlier, there's a specific
>>> >                         option that should show up for you that reads
>>> something like "Chapter
>>> >                         Leader / Project Leader / Volunteer", with a
>>> cost of $0.00 (free).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                         Cheers,
>>> >
>>> >                         Martín.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                         On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Brett Gravois
>>> <brett.gravois at owasp.org
>>> >                         <mailto:brett.gravois at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                             You have to choose the Chapter Leader
>>> option.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                             On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 2:16 PM Owen
>>> Pendlebury
>>> >                             <owen.pendlebury at owasp.org <mailto:
>>> owen.pendlebury at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                                 I recommend reaching out to Dawn who
>>> will be able to look in to
>>> >                                 it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                 It worked for me
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                 On Thu 16 Aug 2018 at 21:15, Milton
>>> Smith
>>> >                                 <milton.smith at owasp.org <mailto:
>>> milton.smith at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                                     I notice it charged me.
>>> >
>>> >                                     —Milton
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                         On Aug 16, 2018, at 1:13 PM,
>>> Owen Pendlebury
>>> >                                         <owen.pendlebury at owasp.org
>>> >                                         <mailto:
>>> owen.pendlebury at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                         Hi Brett,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                         It’s using your leader badge
>>> and should automatically
>>> >                                         give you the discount when
>>> registering.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                         There is no code required.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                         Owen
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                         On Thu 16 Aug 2018 at 21:11,
>>> Brett Gravois
>>> >                                         <brett.gravois at owasp.org
>>> >                                         <mailto:
>>> brett.gravois at owasp.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                                             Is there a Chapter leader
>>> code? I don't think I saw
>>> >                                             anything about this, or it
>>> might be buried in my email.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                             Thanks,
>>> >
>>> >                                             Brett Gravois
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >                                         --
>>> >
>>> >                                         Owen Pendlebury @pendo19 OWASP
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>>> >
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>>> >
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