[Owasp-leaders] Help with OWASP books project - need a web designer
Timur 'x' Khrotko [owasp]
timur at owasp.org
Sat Aug 4 22:42:08 UTC 2018
Offtopic: especially the use of printed guides is doubtful, so I suggest
not to make that a priority format/output -- that's an important frame
requirement when you make choices about CSS. My experience is that if you
made a pole then most of our colleagues would say guides are useless
devices when it comes to help developers in their practices. Noone reads
guides, instead they check stackoverflow for guidance. So we have to create
one click away guidelines competing with the sof articles.
Using Ms doc to create stylesheets you mean!? Any and all word processors
create horrible HTML and CSS.
What I suggested aims to use clean, maintainable and reusable (for
different media) CSS. So that I suggested to use a combo: take a standard,
maintained md CSS, add your own look on top of it.
If OWASP had a professionally designed standard document template I could
make you a CSS with that look. Have we? (Or the document design case is
like with the new site design, a doomed goal ))
On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 at 00:15, Sherif Mansour <sherif.mansour at owasp.org>
> Thanks Timur,
> - So far in my research I got a makefile and have been able to publish
> from MD to html/epub/PDF - (PDFs are useful to print physical copies of
> - this is the example for SAMM - note epub/HTML/PDF artifcats
> so we have a process, but my challenge is on the design side and would
> like some help there to produce a template for all OWASP to use (both CSS &
> Latex) - I heard some have used MS Doc for style but I am not familiar with
> that process.
> On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Timur 'x' Khrotko [owasp] <
> timur at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Hello, I work on a document pipeline of a similar sort: to prepare
>> collaborative book/guide content in md (hosted on gitlab, or github, or/and
>> in local gits), to compile the publications with pandoc and publish it
>> online (for me the PDF books are secondary in their practical usefulness).
>> We prepare a couple of such collaborative defdev publications: an ssdlc
>> playbook and secure coding guides.
>> I suggest using a standard 'css for md' css as base -- there are a number
>> of such csses. You can dig a nice one from the internals of visual code for
>> example. Or (as I do) you can start off the
>> Then you add your custom css next in the cascade. You need a designer for
>> the latter only.
>> Also in case of a book your source is not a monolithic md but pieces
>> which you have to concatenate before feeding to pandoc. And you can hit a
>> couple of the md weaknesses, like line breaks which working your editors
>> are not expected to learn.
>> Let me know if I can help with some particular issues.
>> On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 at 15:14, Sherif Mansour <sherif.mansour at owasp.org>
>>> Hey Gang
>>> Now that AppsecEU is behind us, I need some small web design help on the
>>> owasp books project, if you know a web desinger or would like to help it
>>> would be much appreciated.
>>> The idea is to provide the various OWASP document projects with a
>>> template and a service to publish their documents in various formats - when
>>> they so choose.
>>> Basically OWASP has a lot of books in various formats. We want provide
>>> a service to document projects to move them to MarkDown format and from
>>> there we can use a tool called pandocs to export them to any format
>>> (PDF/Ebooks/physical books etc..). That way we can update them easily and
>>> publish them on amazon etc..
>>> We have already helped the SAMM project convert their PDF of version 1.5
>>> into Mark Down. We need to produce a nice design template (CSS) for
>>> projects to use if they want.
>>> *Where are the books?*
>>> Currently we have one book: The SAMM ebook can be found here (this
>>> includes the images, and mobi/epub formats):
>>> The basic instructions on how to convert a md file to an ebook can be
>>> found here:
>>> However it doesn't look great. Now pandocs has actually a template to
>>> show how it's done properly here:
>>> *What is the ask:*
>>> - Take the contents of the current MD formated book (see link
>>> - Go through the pandoc guide here: https://github.com/wikiti/pandoc-
>>> book-template <https://github.com/wikiti/pandoc-book-template>
>>> - Format the book to look "cleaner" and ready for publishing (the
>>> book can take a CSS as well like in the guide above).
>>> *What is the plan next?*
>>> Please reach out to me, we have many documents and we want to ensure
>>> they are updated regularly so a default book design/format would help
>>> the foundation greatly.
>>> Sherif Mansour
>>> OWASP Global Board Member & OWASP London Chapter Leader
>>> Site: https://www.owasp.org/index.php/London
>>> Email: sherif.mansour at owasp.org
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> Sherif Mansour
> OWASP Global Board Member & OWASP London Chapter Leader
> Site: https://www.owasp.org/index.php/London
> Email: sherif.mansour at owasp.org
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