[Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-board] Where are the boardmembers?

Larry Conklin larry.conklin at owasp.org
Mon May 15 17:50:16 UTC 2017


Conversation is right where it needs to be.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Tiffany Long <tiffany.long at owasp.org>
wrote:

>
> Hey guys, this might be a better conversation off thread as it is now
> hijacking the conversation away from whether board members should attend
> global conferences and how to accomplish that.
>
> Best,
>
> Tiffany Long
> Community Manager
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Azzeddine Ramrami <
> azzeddine.ramrami at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Why you didn't reply to Mohammed EL FATEH email?
>>
>> Azzeddine
>>
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Aobakwe Kaboyakgosi <
>> aobakwe.kaboyakgosi at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> For sure I sent an email to you on the 30/08/2016 titled Appsec
>>> Africa_2016. Anyway, i understand you must've been busy.
>>>
>>> I will send the contact to you with  Al Fateh.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Azzeddine Ramrami <
>>> azzeddine.ramrami at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry I never received any request from you.
>>>>
>>>> For the second edition,  Mohammed El Fateh send an email to all Africa
>>>> leaders requesting them who is interested to host the next edition.
>>>>
>>>> We waited around one month. No reply.
>>>>
>>>> And we decided to organize the next edition in Morocco because no other
>>>> Africa chapter was interested.
>>>>
>>>> If you need to help you are welcome. please contact me directly and add
>>>> Mohammed El Fateh in copy.
>>>>
>>>> Azzeddine
>>>>
>>>> Le 15 mai 2017 9:30 AM, "Aobakwe Kaboyakgosi" <
>>>> aobakwe.kaboyakgosi at owasp.org> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Azzeddine.
>>>>>
>>>>> -->
>>>>> I got only help from Austin and Egypt chapters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing from others Chapters. Nothing​.-->
>>>>>
>>>>> Before the AppSec Africa event I(Botswana Chapter) sent a
>>>>> communication to you requesting for any info of how we can be involved but
>>>>> never got feedback. As a new chapter, we believed that a communication from
>>>>> you could've been done to all the active chapters in Africa to bring them
>>>>> on-board to assist not only financially but with any idea they could avail.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's really not a good thing that only one chapter from Africa helped
>>>>> you on such a big event. May I use this opportunity to call out to you and
>>>>> other older OWASP Africa chapters like Egypt and Kenya to at least try to
>>>>> bring other chapters to work together. I believe we need proper
>>>>> coordination to speak with one voice from the continent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aobakwe, Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Azzeddine Ramrami <
>>>>> azzeddine.ramrami at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> With a great respect​ to OWASP board member and team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For our last regional event OWASP AppSec Africa we got a big support
>>>>>> from them (help for organizing the event, subscription management, etc).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got only help from Austin and Egypt chapters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing from others Chapters. Nothing​.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't ask them to assist to our event because I know that they are
>>>>>> volonteeers and the have their own jobs and responsabities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So for me what I need from them is to support our event and if they
>>>>>> can assist they are more than welcome to our country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to all OWASP volonteeers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Azzeddine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 13 mai 2017 12:03 PM, "Martin Knobloch" <martin.knobloch at owasp.org>
>>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Josh,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know there is no ruling in the OWASP guildlines for board members
>>>>>>> saying they must attend any conference.
>>>>>>> Nevertheless, in my opinion, there is a responsibility for the board
>>>>>>> members to touch base / keep in sync with the community. In my opinion, how
>>>>>>> are you doing this without seeing them in person at one of the biggest
>>>>>>> get-together?
>>>>>>> Next to that, other than what you are required to do, there is the
>>>>>>> point of felt support if board members attending a OWASP event (of the void
>>>>>>> of that if no).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope that clarifies my question,
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> -martin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Martin,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I read it, but I fail to see how it is applicable to Board members
>>>>>>>> attending or not attending the AppSecEU Conference.  Can you please clarify?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:17 AM, johanna curiel curiel <
>>>>>>>> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Josh
>>>>>>>>> Please read this
>>>>>>>>> https://www.energizeinc.com/hot-topics/2012/august
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 12, 2017, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Martin,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The OWASP Board members are volunteers, just like anyone else in
>>>>>>>>>> the organization.  We all have jobs and other responsibilities that
>>>>>>>>>> sometimes prevent us from attending events like this.  The message to the
>>>>>>>>>> global community should be that OWASP is that the Board is there to help
>>>>>>>>>> make sure the organization is moving in the right direction, but OWASP as
>>>>>>>>>> an organization, and it's events, are run by and for the community.  While
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure attendance would have been welcome, we don't need representatives
>>>>>>>>>> from the Board to be present in order to have an outstanding event.  My
>>>>>>>>>> $0.02.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 3:09 PM, <martin.knobloch at owasp.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Members of the board, et all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure what else to say else than I am more than disappointed
>>>>>>>>>>> to see no board member to be at this years AppSec-Eu conference!
>>>>>>>>>>> Johanna, only who been to Belfast, left before the conference
>>>>>>>>>>> days, none of the rest showed up at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What message is this to the global community!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -martin
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Johanna Curiel
>>>>>>>>> OWASP Volunteer
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> OWASP Botswana Chapter Leader
>>>>> Security Researcher
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> OWASP Botswana Chapter Leader
>>> Security Researcher
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Azzeddine RAMRAMI
>> +33 6 65 48 90 04 <+33%206%2065%2048%2090%2004>.
>> OWASP CSRFGuard Project Leader
>> OWASP Leader (Morocco Chapter)
>> Cognitive Security Expert
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