[Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-board] Where are the boardmembers?
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Sat May 13 19:15:43 UTC 2017
WOW! Sam has expressed my thoughts in a perfect way!
In the past I have disagreed with Josh about in-person attendance and
meetings but I respect his opinion as well as the community's and board's
democratic decisions on this matter.
Regardless if it should be obligatory or not, meeting in person is
priceless. I share Martin's concerns and was quite surprised to read his
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Sam Stepanyan <sam.stepanyan at owasp.org>
> I support Martin on this one.
> We are a non-profit organisation with a Board. We have 2 Major conferences
> every year: AppSec Europe and AppSec USA (not quite sure what happened to
> AppSec APAC).
> The board consists of 7 members:
> - Matt Konda
> - Johanna Curiel
> - Tom Brennan
> - Andrew van der Stock
> - Josh Sokol
> - Michael Coates
> - Tobias Gondrom
> AppSec Europe is attended by OWASP members from 30+ countries. Including
> non-European countries. Including USA and Canada.
> There were 30+ OWASP Chapter Leaders at AppSec Europe in Belfast last week
> waiting to talk to their Board and discuss their issues, hopes and plans
> with them. And nobody turned up.... well... apart from Matt Tesauro
> (ex-Board member) who was absolutely fantastic and provided invaluable help
> and advice. The experience of talking to Matt Tesauro in person and
> understanding what the Board is up to and what vision it has for OWASP was
> Last year when I had an opportunity to meet and talk to Andrew van der
> Stock at AppSec Europe in Rome it was a similar experience. The
> re-assurance he gave me personally that the board is supporting the
> community and the advice and help from him cannot be compared with the
> brevity of e-mails and mailing lists.
> Yes, we all have commitments, families, day jobs and emergencies. However
> the unique experience of being a part of a Global Community and the
> opportunity to network with like-minded professionals and community members
> from all around the world gathered in one place for 2 days is priceless. No
> other security conference like BlackHat/DEFCON/RSA gives you this kind of
> experience, the same kind of buzz and the sense of being a part of
> something great like our OWASP AppSec Conferences.
> Dear OWASP Board. Your work is appreciated. Your presence and engagement
> in person with the global community members is also appreciated twice a
> year. Only 4 days per year...
> just my $0.02...
> Sam Stepanyan
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> Hi Josh,
> I know there is no ruling in the OWASP guildlines for board members saying
> they must attend any conference.
> Nevertheless, in my opinion, there is a responsibility for the board
> members to touch base / keep in sync with the community. In my opinion, how
> are you doing this without seeing them in person at one of the biggest
> Next to that, other than what you are required to do, there is the point
> of felt support if board members attending a OWASP event (of the void of
> that if no).
> Hope that clarifies my question,
> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>> I read it, but I fail to see how it is applicable to Board members
>> attending or not attending the AppSecEU Conference. Can you please clarify?
>> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:17 AM, johanna curiel curiel <
>> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Please read this
>>> On Friday, May 12, 2017, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>> The OWASP Board members are volunteers, just like anyone else in the
>>>> organization. We all have jobs and other responsibilities that sometimes
>>>> prevent us from attending events like this. The message to the global
>>>> community should be that OWASP is that the Board is there to help make sure
>>>> the organization is moving in the right direction, but OWASP as an
>>>> organization, and it's events, are run by and for the community. While I'm
>>>> sure attendance would have been welcome, we don't need representatives from
>>>> the Board to be present in order to have an outstanding event. My $0.02.
>>>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 3:09 PM, <martin.knobloch at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>> Members of the board, et all,
>>>>> Not sure what else to say else than I am more than disappointed to see
>>>>> no board member to be at this years AppSec-Eu conference!
>>>>> Johanna, only who been to Belfast, left before the conference days,
>>>>> none of the rest showed up at all.
>>>>> What message is this to the global community!
>>>>> Owasp-board mailing list
>>>>> Owasp-board at lists.owasp.org
>>> Johanna Curiel
>>> OWASP Volunteer
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