[Owasp-leaders] rough consensus & running code

Bev Corwin bev.corwin at owasp.org
Mon May 8 14:44:43 UTC 2017

Hi everyone, According to the OWASP Chapter Leader Handbook Review Doodle
Poll, looks like Friday May 26, 10am ET is the best time for a gotomeeting.
Will set that up today and share with lists. Best wishes, Bev

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org> wrote:

> Thank you Andrew, we know that you tried, and appreciate that. It was a
> good exercise, regardless, even for the new ideas. We must do better in the
> future. Receiving budget requests is a sign that there are good people out
> there willing to help OWASP build value. We all know that this "myth" that
> the "centralized" global OWASP would like to support local chapter efforts
> - and that is part of the reasoning in limiting local chapters - but it
> doesn't really work. Need to build better workflows for incorporating local
> activities, including sponsors, projects, co-marketing activities,
> community building activities, memberships, and other value creating
> activities. OWASP global should be more focused on creating more member and
> community value overall, creating more revenue generating activities than
> just events and trainings, breaking down silos created by vendors,
> empowering chapter leaders and local chapters to build local community,
> memberships, and spend less time creating value and profits for vendors.
> OWASP is not a large corporation or a gov't agency. It does not need
> costly, burdensome red tape. It is a small non profit organization and
> needs to create value for members and the community, and to streamline
> administrative costs. For every dollar spent on admin, we should be asking:
> "Can this be done by a volunteer?" and "Does this create value for our
> members and community?". Every staff person should be engaging chapter
> leaders and volunteers to help them reduce their burden, not to increase it
> with non value creating activities. There need to be clear deliverables for
> staff with timelines with deadlines, performance metrics, and empowering
> chapter leaders and volunteers to build strong, vibrant chapters by
> engaging with their local communities with local sponsors, co-marketing
> agreements and building strong membership bases. Perpetuating this strategy
> of "strangling" local chapters and empowering "staff" vendors must be
> reversed. Not to mention the externalizing of OWASP IP and relationships,
> it damages the organization long term if perpetuated. More workflows that
> empower local chapter leaders and volunteers need to be implemented, and as
> a backup resilience strategies, every staff member and board member should
> have at least one or two "volunteers" who can do their job in the interim
> while the organization seeks their replacements, or if future budgets
> cannot sustain the current death spiral. Sincerely, Bev
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 2:06 AM, Sean Auriti <sean.auriti at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Thank you Andrew.  I hope the budget requests I submitted on January 31st
>> can be voted on during tomorrow's board meeting.
>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:16 AM, Andrew van der Stock <vanderaj at owasp.org
>> > wrote:
>>> The main thing to note here is that I think next year's budget
>>> discussions needs to kick off with fervour much earlier than we did last
>>> year. I tried (I really did) by talking about the 2017 budget in July,
>>> September, October's f2f, November, December and January's board meetings.
>>> But it just never really got much traction.
>>> I think the problem with asking the community for input is that I
>>> received around a $1m of ad hoc ideas, but had no formal way of tracking
>>> them, so they sort of got lost. I will look into making a google form or
>>> similar this time around so we can track them better. We must manage to
>>> policy, and not to individual requests, so I will be looking at a way to
>>> bring this together for future years so there is transparency. However, the
>>> requests from the NY/NJ chapter alone exceeded this year's total spend by
>>> $380k. So we can do some of it, but without growing our membership and
>>> sponsorship opportunities, we can't do it all.
>>> thanks,
>>> Andrew
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