[Owasp-leaders] rough consensus & running code

Bev Corwin bev.corwin at owasp.org
Sun May 7 23:08:32 UTC 2017

PS: I should probably note that we were not notified of the board meeting
where they were discussed either. Unfortunately, again assumed incorrectly
that we would be notified. As I recall, board meetings scheduling was
moving around quit a bit at that time, pretty inconsistent. Hard to follow.

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the update & clarification Tiffany, Good to know. Sean also
> submitted a number of requests. We were asked to submit ideas for helping
> OWASP so we put together a number of concepts funding requests. In fact, we
> noticed that one of our board members recently submitted similar ideas as
> our proposals (grant team funding), and received a great deal of support.
> Happy to hear that there is support for similar concepts, regardless. They
> will help OWASP in the long run, IMHO. I did not attend the board meeting
> where they were discussed, however, I did assume incorrectly that we would
> at least receive the courtesy of some kind of notification from someone.
> Sean and I (OWASP Brooklyn) also submitted a number of requests last year
> to Kate and Andrew which were effectively ignored, as well: CSAW,
> OpenCamps, etc.. I would assume that many other chapters received the same
> cold shoulder when submitting, and that it wasn't just OWASP Brooklyn that
> was treated with such disregard. Thank you and best wishes, Bev
> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Tiffany Long <tiffany.long at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>> Dear Bev,
>> The only list of requests I can find are the requests y'all made for the
>> Annual Budget to the tune about $560,000.
>> <https://tracking.cirrusinsight.com/5a8df58d-c179-4516-808a-5a2ac7d43c15/lists-owasp-org-pipermail-owasp-board-2017-february-017858-html>
>> These requests were made directly to the Board of Directors as part of
>> the annual budget process.  As such the Staff did not handle any aspect of
>> them.  They were however, referenced in the board meetings (as this is
>> where the budget is discussed when the board discusses it publicly) and
>> they did not make it to the final budget document.
>> As items added to the budget are not funding requests
>> <https://tracking.cirrusinsight.com/5a8df58d-c179-4516-808a-5a2ac7d43c15/owasp-org-index-php-funding> and
>> as these items were documented with the public board meetings, the leader's
>> list, and the board list, and did not make it through to the budget, I did
>> not realize that they might be what you were referring to.  I apologize, it
>> did not occur to me that OWASP Brooklyn was not following the board
>> discussion of such a large requested amount.  I will take this as a lesson
>> next year during the budget process to make sure to track these requests
>> myself so that I can notify the requesters of the Board's decision.
>> If these are not the requests you are referring to, please direct me to
>> the ones you did mean and I will try to sort out the issue.
>> Best,
>> Tiffany
>> Tiffany Long
>> Community Manager
>> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Arthur, Local chapter teams should provide this together, not only
>>> one or two chapters. We can dig into this more deeply in meetings when
>>> reviewing the handbook. Obviously and apparently, global side is not able
>>> to accurately gauge or track, unfortunately. All mappings should be
>>> combined with other local chapters' experiences, as well. Some conflicts of
>>> interest are blatant, and I expect that they will be discussed in more
>>> detail on Monday. Best wishes, Bev
>>> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Arthur Hedge <ahedge at castleventures.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Bev,
>>>> Why don’t you do the mapping of the conflicts of interests, since you
>>>> seem to know what they are and then share them with the rest of the OWASP
>>>> leaders before you continue with more accusations?
>>>> Arthur J. Hedge III CISSP
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