[Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-board] FW: MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to Handle ED Search Process

Riotaro OKADA riotaro at owasp.org
Tue Jun 27 14:01:05 UTC 2017


+1

We should hurry them up.

Hi Tobias, we care what is going on and how the board proceed this matter.

Rio
Japan chapter lead.

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 9:39 Tanya Janca <tanya.janca at owasp.org> wrote:

> +1
>
> On Jun 27, 2017 9:34 AM, "Larry Conklin" <larry.conklin at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys, this has taken way to long and it's hurting the community and
>> Foundation. We need to move on this. Larry Conklin
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Leaders, Has anyone seen or heard from
>>>
>>> Tobias
>>> Matt
>>> Andrew
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> @Josh staff has a roledex of peoples phone numbers if you want to reach
>>> out the old fashion way.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 8:27 AM Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Board,
>>>>
>>>> This motion was made 11 days ago.  It was seconded by Michael 7 days
>>>> ago.  Currently, I am unable to progress with this until a decision is made
>>>> and I've been contacted by a number of people who are interested.  We've
>>>> also now lost interest from one perspective candidate due to how long this
>>>> process has taken.  I need a yes or a no from each of you.
>>>>
>>>> *MOTION: The Board will allocate up to $45k to hire Scion Executive
>>>> Search to conduct the search, evaluation, and hiring process for the new
>>>> OWASP Executive Director.*
>>>>
>>>> Josh - Yes
>>>> Michael -
>>>> Tobias -
>>>> Matt -
>>>> Tom - Yes
>>>> Andrew -
>>>> Martin (Shadow Vote?) -
>>>>
>>>> ~josh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Board,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had another two inquiries about what is going on with this
>>>>> position.  Again, I am unable to make progress here until the Board
>>>>> approves the direction.  This cannot wait until the next Board meeting so I
>>>>> have requested a vote via email.
>>>>>
>>>>> *MOTION: The Board will allocate up to $45k to hire Scion Executive
>>>>> Search to conduct the search, evaluation, and hiring process for the new
>>>>> OWASP Executive Director.*
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh - Yes
>>>>> Michael -
>>>>> Tobias -
>>>>> Matt -
>>>>> Tom - Yes
>>>>> Andrew -
>>>>> Martin (Shadow Vote?) -
>>>>>
>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning everyone,  I am forwarding Ann’s response to Josh’s
>>>>>> questions below regarding the Virtual proposal.  Take care
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As clarification of the Virtual ED recruitment proposal, as per the
>>>>>> below statement on the proposal, we will do an active search and not just
>>>>>> review submitted resumes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “outreach to passive candidates, US & global”
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The first section of the following statement from Josh is accurate,
>>>>>> SCION  can leverage an existing global network of candidates that we don’t
>>>>>> have, that is where we would partner with our global recruitment group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> leveraging an existing global network of highly qualified
>>>>>> candidates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, Miriam would be actively seeking candidates on OWASP’s
>>>>>> behalf.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>>>>>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: cid:image001.png at 01CE7100.10DF2040]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org
>>>>>> [mailto:owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Josh Sokol
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2017 12:38 PM
>>>>>> *To:* OWASP Board List (owasp-board at lists.owasp.org) <
>>>>>> owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-board] FW: MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive
>>>>>> Search to Handle ED Search Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Board,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure if you've had a chance to review the proposal from
>>>>>> Virtual yet, but it is fundamentally different than the Scion proposal in
>>>>>> several ways.  Virtual's proposal is for posting to the job board, tracking
>>>>>> of applicants, review and communication with candidates, scheduling of
>>>>>> interviews and taking notes/scoring, and preparing the offer.  Scion's
>>>>>> package is all-inclusive and they are leveraging an existing global network
>>>>>> of highly qualified candidates.  They are a recruiter actively seeking out
>>>>>> candidates on our behalf versus Virtual's proposal to post a job and
>>>>>> waiting for qualified candidates to come to us.  In order to add the
>>>>>> recruitment function, it would add approximately $29k-34k, in addition to
>>>>>> the $6k for the initial services, not to mention that it would be
>>>>>> effectively starting the search again.  Another major difference is that
>>>>>> Virtual is not offering any placement guarantee.  Even at a 30% commission
>>>>>> (I'm estimating at $40k), Scion would still offer us a 6 months placement
>>>>>> guarantee.  I have no skin in the game with either of these companies, but
>>>>>> my gut says that if OWASP truly wants a global search for the best ED
>>>>>> available, then Scion is the way to go.  If we are simply looking for
>>>>>> someone to manage the process for us, then Virtual would be the better
>>>>>> option.  My gut is to go with Scion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have made a formal motion.  Michael seconded it on June 20th and I
>>>>>> haven't seen any discussion from the other Board members.  This process is
>>>>>> stalled and we have candidates waiting on a decision from the Board.
>>>>>> Please vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh - Yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tobias -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin (Shadow Vote?) -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Andrew van der Stock <
>>>>>> vanderaj at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Tom, much appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone, Please find the attached proposal from the Virtual HR
>>>>>> team, with regard to the ED search, for your review,  as was requested.  I
>>>>>> am sending this along as our VP of HR Ann Geary does not have access to the
>>>>>> Board list for OWASP.  If you have any questions please do not hesitate to
>>>>>> let us know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take care and thank you for allowing us to present this proposal to
>>>>>> assist OWASP in its ED search as we have in past searches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>>>>>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: cid:image001.png at 01CE7100.10DF2040]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Ann Geary
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:36 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>; Josh Sokol <
>>>>>> josh.sokol at owasp.org>; Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
>>>>>> *Cc:* OWASP Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>; Miriam Macedo <
>>>>>> mmacedo at virtualmgmt.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search
>>>>>> to Handle ED Search Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Attached is a draft of the OWASP recruitment proposal.  I’ve copied
>>>>>> Miriam Macedo, Virtual’s HR Recruitment Manager who has conducted numerous
>>>>>> global searches, including ED recruitment efforts. Miriam would do a great
>>>>>> job, but we want to be realistic and acknowledge that if there is a need
>>>>>> for a full blown global search, we would partner with a group we have
>>>>>> utilized for more “niche” searches. Our contact  has more expertise and
>>>>>> connections in the global arena. Our  proposal is as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Attached standard search fee is in the range of $6,000
>>>>>>    - If no viable candidate is identified in an agreed upon
>>>>>>    timeframe, we would partner with our global search firm contact in the UK
>>>>>>     with whom we’ve negotiated a 15-25%  fee of base salary & negotiated
>>>>>>    bonus.  would add approx. $29,000 - $34,000, dependent on salary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We do not mark up their fee structure:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Fee Structure; Based upon 1st years agreed salary, plus any
>>>>>> agreed/built in bonuses.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Remuneration (usd$)               % of Remuneration Paid*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *0          - 100,000                     25%*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *100,001 – 125,000                   20% *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *125,001 -  150,000                      18% (subject to min fee
>>>>>> $25,000)*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *150,001 +                                    15% (subject to min fee
>>>>>> $27,500)*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *4.         REFUND GUARANTEES*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *4.1       In order to qualify for the following guarantees, the
>>>>>> Client must pay the Company’s fee within 15 days of the date of invoice and
>>>>>> must notify the Company in writing of the termination of the Engagement
>>>>>> within 7 days of its termination. *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *4.2       Where the Candidate leaves during the first 8 weeks of the
>>>>>> Engagement, a pro-rated refund of the introduction fee shall be paid to the
>>>>>> Client in accordance with the scale set out below, subject to the
>>>>>> conditions in clause 4. *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Week in which the Candidate leaves   % of the introduction fee
>>>>>> refunded*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> 1                                                                90%*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> 2                                                                80%*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> 3                                                                70%       *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> 4                                                                60%*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> 5                                                                50%*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *6*
>>>>>> *40%*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *7*
>>>>>> *30%*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *8*
>>>>>> *20%*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *There will be no refund where the Candidate leaves during or after
>>>>>> the 8th week of the Engagement. *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *4.3       If, after an offer of Engagement has been made to the
>>>>>> Candidate, the Client decides for any reason to withdraw it, the Client
>>>>>> shall be liable to pay the Company. *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *10% of the Remuneration where the annual Remuneration.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With our competitive fee, Virtual does not offer any placement
>>>>>> guarantee; our fee is based on work produced, and not a % of candidate
>>>>>> salary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few points of note:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - If the finalist is not in the US, and you want to add him/her
>>>>>>    to payroll, we may need to negotiate a contract for services with our
>>>>>>    global HR partner; we can’t provide fees until we confirm the location
>>>>>>    - If the finalist is in the US, an OWASP staff member needs to
>>>>>>    manage the onboarding with Insperity
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions regarding the proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ann
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ann O’Connor Geary |   Vice President, Human Resources | Virtual, Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D: +1.781.876.6273 <(781)%20876-6273>  |  M: +1.781.606.1350
>>>>>> <(781)%20606-1350>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *ageary at virtualmgmt.com <ageary at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>>>>> blog.virtualmgmt.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: cid:image001.png at 01CF1218.1E0F0690]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Tom Pappas
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 20, 2017 4:58 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>; Kate Hartmann <
>>>>>> kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
>>>>>> *Cc:* OWASP Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>; Ann Geary <
>>>>>> ageary at virtualmgmt.com>
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search
>>>>>> to Handle ED Search Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Josh,  I have just received the Virtual HR search proposal and
>>>>>> will be reviewing so it can be sent to you all tomorrow. Wanted to keep
>>>>>> everyone updated.  Take care
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>>>>>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: cid:image001.png at 01CE7100.10DF2040]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Josh Sokol [mailto:josh.sokol at owasp.org
>>>>>> <josh.sokol at owasp.org>]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 20, 2017 4:23 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
>>>>>> *Cc:* Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>; OWASP Board List <
>>>>>> owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search
>>>>>> to Handle ED Search Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OWASP Board Members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am receiving emails from interested parties, but am unsure as to
>>>>>> how you want to move the ball forward.  Without a second on my motion, I'm
>>>>>> afraid that our direction is simply to "do it ourselves" again, which none
>>>>>> of us have the time for and we had a very narrow reach last time.  I'm
>>>>>> trying to drive this forward, but I cannot do so without your participation
>>>>>> in the process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, do any of those specialize in search for non-profits?  Can you
>>>>>> please inquire with those what the fees would be for a retained search?
>>>>>> That would at least give us a baseline to tell if Scion's fees are
>>>>>> reasonable.  Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Kate Hartmann <
>>>>>> kate.hartmann at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not familiar with executive search firms, however, a google
>>>>>> search for "international executive search firms" provide this link with
>>>>>> the top 10
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.topexecutivesearchfirms.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Overview
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Top Executive Search Firms* exists as a resource to employers
>>>>>> seeking to understand the complexities of the executive search/recruiting
>>>>>> industry. Our research offers prospective employers an unbiased look at the
>>>>>> top executive search firms by offering resources, opinions, and rankings as
>>>>>> a guide to helping you choose the best firm to meet your executive search
>>>>>> needs. This list will be updated each year based upon an algorithmic
>>>>>> approach with includes public voting. We do not accept payment from
>>>>>> executive search firms for inclusion on this list. We do accept advertising
>>>>>> from industry partners, vendors, suppliers, and employers.
>>>>>> Qualifications
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to qualify for the Top 20 Executive Search Firms list,
>>>>>> organizations must be retained search firms, have multiple practice areas,
>>>>>> have displayed recognized thought leadership, and must have completed
>>>>>> signature searches for global brands in multiple geographies.
>>>>>> Ranking Methodology
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The ranking order for the Top 20 Executive Search Firms list is
>>>>>> derived algorithmically based upon a proprietary weighting of the following
>>>>>> criteria: annual revenue, number of placements, number of ancillary
>>>>>> services or practice areas, level of searches handled by average salary,
>>>>>> completion ratio, average time to complete, stick rate, client satisfaction
>>>>>> (testimonials/votes), social media presence, and executive thought
>>>>>> leadership. Our algorithm also negatively weights adverse circumstances
>>>>>> (e.g. candidate exited based upon discovery which the search firm should
>>>>>> have filtered, client litigation, poaching, etc.).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Virtual has not presented us with any similar proposals for searching
>>>>>> for and hiring an ED.  The service we used them for was a Virtual ED
>>>>>> server, and eventually we hired Paul from them.  If they have a global
>>>>>> search service, then that option has not been presented to us yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think anyone on the Board is familiar with this company.  I
>>>>>> was the only Board member who attended the initial meeting with them, but
>>>>>> Claudia and Dawn attended as well.  The entire meeting was recorded and
>>>>>> posted earlier, but I don't think anyone else has listened to it, or even
>>>>>> read through their proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a global search.  I haven't seen any other companies brought
>>>>>> to us.  Did you have a recommendation for someone else to look into?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Owasp <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using a third party is a good idea, but I'd strongly recommend
>>>>>> interviewing at least one other firm. This is a large spend and a decision
>>>>>> that impacts the future direction of OWASP!  Why is there no consideration
>>>>>> to use the firm that presented Paul?  Is everyone on the board familiar
>>>>>> with this company?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Impact aside, would the board be OK with operations committing to a
>>>>>> $45k spend without at least two additional options?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I might have missed it, but I didn't see anything in scion's Q&A
>>>>>> about searching internationally for candidates. Will they search globally,
>>>>>> or is it just a US search?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kate Hartmann
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 4:51 PM, Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Josh thank you for the clarification.  Take care
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>>>>>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <image001.png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Josh Sokol [mailto:josh.sokol at owasp.org
>>>>>> <josh.sokol at owasp.org>]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 16, 2017 4:48 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>
>>>>>> *Cc:* OWASP Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search
>>>>>> to Handle ED Search Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is correct.  We would be paying them to effectively run the
>>>>>> search and hire process for us.  I would encourage all candidates to go
>>>>>> through that process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Tom Pappas <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Josh, so I have a couple of questions with regard to the note
>>>>>> below.  Based on the billing it seems that Scion is handling the entire
>>>>>> process and that any and all candidates should go through them, as I have
>>>>>> just received the resume from the individual that we had identified and
>>>>>> does this mean that Matt T either has to interview with Scion or is out of
>>>>>> the running.  Just want to get a bit of clarity as to what the process is
>>>>>> for candidates that Scion does not identify in their search.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas S. Pappas, MSA |   Senior Vice President of Finance &
>>>>>> Administration | Virtual, Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D: +1-781-876-8914 <(781)%20876-8914>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> F:  +1-781-623-8460 <(781)%20623-8460>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *tpappas at virtualmgmt.com <tpappas at virtualmgmt.com>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 401 Edgewater Place, Suite 600, Wakefield, MA 01880
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <image001.png>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org
>>>>>> [mailto:owasp-board-bounces+tpappas=virtualmgmt.com at lists.owasp.org] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Josh Sokol
>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 16, 2017 4:08 PM
>>>>>> *To:* OWASP Board List <owasp-board at lists.owasp.org>
>>>>>> *Subject:* [Owasp-board] MOTION: Bring in Scion Executive Search to
>>>>>> Handle ED Search Process
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OWASP Board,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's been some discussion in the other thread regarding the
>>>>>> proposal from Scion.  I am including the proposal as it contains answers to
>>>>>> many of the questions that have been asked.  The only argument that I've
>>>>>> really heard against this is monetary and I truly feel like we shouldn't
>>>>>> let that stand in the way of hiring the best ED for the Foundation.  Given
>>>>>> no internal expertise in these matters, it is my recommendation that the
>>>>>> Board move forward with the proposal from Scion.  To that end, I have a
>>>>>> question and a formal motion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question: Would we like a six-month or twelve-month placement
>>>>>> guarantee on the hire?  The difference is an additional 3% of the annual
>>>>>> salary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *MOTION: The Board will allocate up to $45k to hire Scion Executive
>>>>>> Search to conduct the search, evaluation, and hiring process for the new
>>>>>> OWASP Executive Director.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is based on the high-range salary estimate of $135k and 33%
>>>>>> number for the 12-month placement.  This would be billed 1/3rd upon the
>>>>>> signing of the contract, 1/3rd 60 days later, and 1/3rd on the new ED's
>>>>>> start date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the record, our ED recruitment process is stalled until we either
>>>>>> approve or reject this motion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> *<image002.jpg> Scion Executive Search Proposal - Open Web Appl...
>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/a/owasp.org/file/d/0Bw1W2qFZ-xDGeWl6WUNIdlk3b3hSM0lvUmxKZjlBREFTZnlV/view?usp=drive_web>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kate Hartmann
>>>>>>
>>>>>> kate.hartmann at owasp.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 301-275-9403 <(301)%20275-9403>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Image removed by sender.]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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