[Owasp-leaders] Mozilla speaks up. Should OWASP?

Rich Vázquez rich.vazquez at owasp.org
Tue Jan 31 20:53:42 UTC 2017


Mozilla is a nonprofit as well.
Non-web "security" items are discussed in our conferences.


On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 1:26 PM Haral Tsitsivas <haral.tsitsivas at owasp.org>
wrote:

> Donald Trump may be a candidate for 2020, and however hilarious that is,
> no-one is talking about his candidacy... The discussion is about policy!
> Of course any statement should be vetted with legal...
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Tiffany Long <tiffany.long at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
> Donald Trump filed his candidacy for 2020, he is officially a candidate
> again.  At this point any action must be run through a lawyer.  Any
> activities surrounding advocacy must be generated by the foundation (at the
> behest of the volunteers; with agreement from the board), must be directly
> related to the OWASP mission, and must not seek to single out any candidate
> specifically or by virtue of newly targeting a policy associated with that
> candidate.
>
> The shirts represented both candidates, advocated no policy, and were
> parody.  Therefore they were not in violation.
>
> I want to be clear, I am not splashing cold water on any effort for
> volunteers to ask the organization to take any particular stance.  I just
> want to illuminate the restrictions which any action is bound by.
>
> I have a feeling this will come up a lot and in many countries with issues
> such as net neutrality, security research, etcetera and want our community
> to understand where we need to ask for legal guidance and where we can act
> as a multinational organization.
>
>
> Tiffany Long
> Community Manager
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Mike McCabe <mccabe615 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tiffany or Laura, can chime in but the t-shirts were run past a lawyer and
> since they neither endorsed a candidate or showed preference to either they
> were deemed 'ok'.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Haral Tsitsivas <
> haral.tsitsivas at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> The posted material seems to be related to campaigns and candidates.
> POTUS 45 is already elected, so saying anything is taking a position on
> policy...
> What are the rules for that?
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Tony Turner <tony.turner at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
> I don't think that is technically true. You cannot directly support or
> oppose a campaign but voter education IS allowed
>
>
> https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/the-restriction-of-political-campaign-intervention-by-section-501-c-3-tax-exempt-organizations
>
> and also from a lobbyist standpoint, public education is also permitted
> but it starts getting hairy when you start asking people to contact their
> legal representatives
>
> https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/lobbying
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Tiffany Long <tiffany.long at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
> Arturo,
>
> Due to domestic and international laws governing non-profits and our 501(c)(3)
> status in the US Chapters are not allowed to advocate political or policy
> positions nor can they sign contracts for the foundation.
>
> Best,
> Tiffany
>
> Tiffany Long
> Community Manager
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <
> buanzo at buanzo.com.ar> wrote:
>
> If I may drop an opinion, each OWASP *US* Chapter should be free to speak
> out, if the chapter's leadership so vote/decide/etc it. And OWASP should
> not need to declare that chapters are free to speak up, I think.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Tony Turner <tony.turner at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
> I personally think we should avoid political activity unless it impacts
> our mission. If there are US based activities in support of the OWASP
> mission that are hampered by the ban then we should speak up, but otherwise
> stay out of it. For instance, if 90 days extends longer into the year and
> prevents foreign attendees from coming to AppSecUSA (or other activities,
> but I'm laser focused on Orlando right now) then that creates impact for
> our organization and our mission as a whole. That being said, I think there
> are ways to support our colleagues abroad without condemning the current US
> political leadership.
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Larry Conklin <larry.conklin at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
> Personally I am torn here. Yes I want America safe. However I don't really
> see the value in a 90 days travel band is going to make America any safer.
> Mozilla has spoken up against it. They are in many ways a community like
> ours. Should OWASP also go on record for support or against the travel ban?
>
>
> *This past weekend the Trump Administration signed an executive order to
> temporarily suspend travel into the United States for individuals from
> Syria, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen and Libya. This is troubling for
> us as a community on many levels.*
>
> *Mozilla is a global community of people sharing ideas and working
> together. We believe in opportunity for all, freedom of ideas, and that
> multiculturalism is crucial to building a true global community. This is
> why Mozilla has taken a public position against the US immigration ban. *
>
>
> https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/01/28/us-immigration-ban/
>
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