[Owasp-leaders] Mozilla speaks up. Should OWASP?

Mike McCabe mccabe615 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 31 19:02:34 UTC 2017


Tiffany or Laura, can chime in but the t-shirts were run past a lawyer and
since they neither endorsed a candidate or showed preference to either they
were deemed 'ok'.



On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Haral Tsitsivas <haral.tsitsivas at owasp.org>
wrote:

> The posted material seems to be related to campaigns and candidates.
> POTUS 45 is already elected, so saying anything is taking a position on
> policy...
> What are the rules for that?
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Tony Turner <tony.turner at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't think that is technically true. You cannot directly support or
>> oppose a campaign but voter education IS allowed
>>
>> https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organiz
>> ations/the-restriction-of-political-campaign-interventio
>> n-by-section-501-c-3-tax-exempt-organizations
>>
>> and also from a lobbyist standpoint, public education is also permitted
>> but it starts getting hairy when you start asking people to contact their
>> legal representatives
>>
>> https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/lobbying
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Tiffany Long <tiffany.long at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Arturo,
>>>
>>> Due to domestic and international laws governing non-profits and our
>>> 501(c)(3) status in the US Chapters are not allowed to advocate
>>> political or policy positions nor can they sign contracts for the
>>> foundation.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Tiffany
>>>
>>> Tiffany Long
>>> Community Manager
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <
>>> buanzo at buanzo.com.ar> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I may drop an opinion, each OWASP *US* Chapter should be free to
>>>> speak out, if the chapter's leadership so vote/decide/etc it. And OWASP
>>>> should not need to declare that chapters are free to speak up, I think.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Tony Turner <tony.turner at owasp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I personally think we should avoid political activity unless it
>>>>> impacts our mission. If there are US based activities in support of the
>>>>> OWASP mission that are hampered by the ban then we should speak up, but
>>>>> otherwise stay out of it. For instance, if 90 days extends longer into the
>>>>> year and prevents foreign attendees from coming to AppSecUSA (or other
>>>>> activities, but I'm laser focused on Orlando right now) then that creates
>>>>> impact for our organization and our mission as a whole. That being said, I
>>>>> think there are ways to support our colleagues abroad without condemning
>>>>> the current US political leadership.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Larry Conklin <
>>>>> larry.conklin at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally I am torn here. Yes I want America safe. However I don't
>>>>>> really see the value in a 90 days travel band is going to make America any
>>>>>> safer.  Mozilla has spoken up against it. They are in many ways a community
>>>>>> like ours. Should OWASP also go on record for support or against the travel
>>>>>> ban?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *This past weekend the Trump Administration signed an executive order
>>>>>> to temporarily suspend travel into the United States for individuals from
>>>>>> Syria, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen and Libya. This is troubling for
>>>>>> us as a community on many levels.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Mozilla is a global community of people sharing ideas and working
>>>>>> together. We believe in opportunity for all, freedom of ideas, and that
>>>>>> multiculturalism is crucial to building a true global community. This is
>>>>>> why Mozilla has taken a public position against the US immigration ban. *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/01/28/us-immigration-ban/
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tony Turner
>>>>> OWASP Orlando Chapter Founder/Co-Leader
>>>>> WAFEC Project Leader
>>>>> STING Game Project Leader
>>>>> tony.turner at owasp.org
>>>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Orlando
>>>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tony Turner
>> OWASP Orlando Chapter Founder/Co-Leader
>> WAFEC Project Leader
>> STING Game Project Leader
>> tony.turner at owasp.org
>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Orlando
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