[Owasp-leaders] HTML Security Annotations
psiinon at gmail.com
Wed Jan 4 15:22:35 UTC 2017
For info I've also reached out to some non OWASP security tool authors I
Ideally I'd like this to be a generic cross-tool 'standard' :)
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:15 PM, psiinon <psiinon at gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, so I did initially call it data-security=”no-csrf” :)
> I'm happy to go with the consensus...
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Dinis Cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
>> This is a brilliant idea, but I would make it a name-value pair (easier
>> to parse and more future proof)
>> On 4 Jan 2017 1:56 p.m., "psiinon" <psiinon at gmail.com> wrote:
>> All security tools suffer from false positives (FP’s), and good tools
>> allow these FPs to be flagged in the tool. SAST tools also typically allow
>> the source code to be annotated to prevent FPs from being flagged, eg the
>> @SuppressWarnings annotation in Java.
>> I've discussed this with Mozilla web developers and we have decided to
>> start using what I've dubbed 'HTML security annotations'.
>> The first one we will be using is to allow forms to be flagged as not
>> requiring (anti) CSRF tokens, eg
>> <form action="/my-handling-form-page" method="post" data-no-csrf>
>> <label for="search">Search:</label>
>> <input type="text" id=”search" />
>> The 'data-no-csrf' attribute is an indication that the developers know
>> all about CSRF tokens and have decided that this form doesnt require one.
>> Security tools _can_ choose to not flag such forms as being insecure
>> because they dont have a CSRF token. They can also make it easier for their
>> users to find all forms that so have such tokens:)
>> Theres no guarantee that the developers are right, so a sensible
>> pentester would not place too much faith in this attributes use.
>> However its an easy and effective way to reduce FPs in DAST tools and
>> also an easy way to indicate to bug bounty participants that they should
>> only report these forms if they are _really_ sure they can be usefully
>> There are other alternative solutions to this particular problem,
>> 1. Adding CSRF tokens to all forms whether they need it or not. That
>> feels nasty to me and I'm not going to suggest it to our devs ;)
>> 2. Having tool specific configurations for flagging FPs. Many tools
>> support this but personally I like the annotation approach that can be
>> adopted by all tools
>> So thats the first one we're trying out, and I can see the potential for
>> more of them.
>> What do you think?
>> If everyone else hates this idea then we can keep as Mozilla specific.
>> However if there is broad support for this them maybe it could be mentioned
>> on the relevant pages of the OWASP wiki.
>> In any case I'll be adding the option to ignore forms flagged in this way
>> to ZAP ;)
>> All constructive feedback appreciated, including suggestions for other
>> annotations that could be useful.
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