[Owasp-leaders] Meetup.com goes Deep Politcal

Sean Auriti sean.auriti at owasp.org
Tue Feb 14 04:25:31 UTC 2017


I came across this mockup for an event type of website.  I'd be open to
working on an open source project like this that we could use across the
organization.
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Bjoern Kimminich <
bjoern.kimminich at owasp.org> wrote:

> How is Meetup giving (among others) political groups a platform to
> organize their meetings any worse than Twitter giving people a platform to
> express (among other things) their political opinion? The fact that they
> promote it actively? They probably host those #Resist groups for free, so I
> get the argument that they are taking a position. That's stronger (in a
> good or bad way depending on personal opinion) than just abstractly voicing
> their disagreement with politics like other tech companies recently did.
> Still I don't see any harm for OWASP or the other hundreds of non-political
> groups on the platform.
>
>
> Am 14. Februar 2017 02:56:24 MEZ schrieb Ralph Durkee <rd at rd1.net>:
>>
>> Products and services such a Google don't promote political agendas and
>> political organizations on their home page, and in their emails to
>> customers.  When they do they become a political organization, whether they
>> are for-profit or not-for-profit.  So the point is that OWASP shouldn't be
>> involved with promoting and funding political organizations.   Let's stay
>> out of the politics, and focus on AppSec as we have said before.
>>
>> -- Ralph Durkee
>>
>>
>> On 02/13/2017 08:44 PM, Evin Hernandez wrote:
>>
>> Agree with Gregory .
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Gregory Disney <gregory.disney at owasp.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Ralph,
>>> I would like to point out you are using a political organization
>>> (Google) to say we should severe ties. Does this have to be a huge
>>> reactionary tizzy? You have to ask yourself does the tool serve a purpose
>>> without redoing the wheel to do Meetups. If a tool is also used by
>>> political groups, who cares? They also profit from baseball games and bar
>>> hopping and everything else under the sun. So why do we care if they host
>>> political meetups, if it serves our needs?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Ralph Durkee (OWASP) <
>>> Ralph.Durkee at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Until recently meetup.com has catered to and been used by people of a
>>>> wide diversity of backgrounds. Now they have turned their organization into
>>>> an political movement that is sure to disenfranchise a large chunk of the
>>>> OWASP community.   It's no longer appropriate for OWASP to have a
>>>> relationship with an organization that is politically biased and offensive
>>>> to people that disagree with their political views, or don't want to
>>>> support the political agenda.  On the meetup home at the bottom is floating
>>>> panel with a link to https://www.meetup.com/pro/resist/
>>>>
>>>> How can we sever our relationship with meetup?  I know I recently got
>>>> an email saying my account was expiring and asking me to pay the $50 meetup
>>>> membership fee.  I won't pay it!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> -- Ralph Durkee
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Thank You,
>> Evin Hernandez
>> Owasp NJ chapter leader
>> evin.hernandez at owasp.org
>>
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