[Owasp-leaders] Project Sponshorship, Support, and Finance

Sherif Mansour sherif.mansour at owasp.org
Wed Dec 27 22:30:55 UTC 2017


Yeah, this puts things into prespective, and they have been going on for a
while (years).

On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 at 9:52 pm, Travis McPeak <travis.mcpeak at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey Sherif,
>
> Thanks for all of the work putting these together!  I had no idea about
> many of these issues.
>
> -Travis
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Sherif Mansour <sherif.mansour at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Sometimes we people talk about "politics" it really boils down to
>> miscommunication or mismanagement.
>> Politics infers malicious intent which is not the case.
>>
>> Additionally I would like to make a quick note on bullying. This
>> right now an important issue for me, I have had OWASP leaders recount
>> events to me in tears, and I can see aggression on a constant basis. I
>> think bullying has lead to many members/staff to leave OWASP and it is a
>> death by a thousand cuts for this community. equally not listening to the
>> community and not treating it as a conversation doesn’t help.
>>
>> As techie's we are used to quickly expressing our frustrations and in
>> public forums, sometimes its important to take a step back and understand
>> how that impacts other people.
>>
>> To that end I have created a thread called "Identifying Improvement
>> Opportunities at OWASP - How to make OWASP a better place" I have included
>> the following information below on what I personally see as the current
>> state of OWASP/its challenges (see link
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HZFGkLBbbLRhhVh0DAcSS8flWOKSu0gJOui9J_PdSn4/edit?usp=sharing>)
>> as well as feedback from the rest of the community on how to resolve these
>> issues (also in a link
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/16z59SKXbNEwDi1bLobswye1QxryNNdjOdGHdqZ4t-wQ/edit?usp=sharing>
>> )
>>
>> Comments for each page are open to facilitate a conversation.
>>
>> Take care and happy holidays everyone!
>> PS: apologies for the typos I have a really bad migraine
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The AppSecEU team should have been informed that this topic of moving
>>> AppSecEU from Israel to UK was up for discussion at the OWASP BoD meeting,
>>> and one of the AppSecEU Israel team should have been invited to the OWASP
>>> BoD meeting to speak on the AppSecEU Israel team's behalf. Unfortunately,
>>> there was no one to represent the AppSecEU Israel team at the OWASP BoD
>>> meeting. A big mistake IMHO.
>>>
>>> Bev
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Tom Brennan - OWASP <tomb at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Encourage everyone to LISTEN to the “B-Side” and actual video/audio
>>>> recording of the Dec 17’ meeting themselves for context.
>>>>
>>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1i2zdQ6QVFoWh06TBuJy2Zo5bvp9M50zJ
>>>>
>>>> Prior there is also (12) month of related context from the public
>>>> monthly meetings, progress reports, recordings, and related from your
>>>> elected board representatives find it here:
>>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Board#tab=How_Meetings_Operate
>>>>
>>>> Be part of the live discussion in January, that is what communities do
>>>> to grow. Talk
>>>>
>>>> Happy Holidays
>>>>
>>>> </flame>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:29 AM Avi D (OWASP Israel) <
>>>> avi.douglen at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Brian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes it does seem that there is something fundamentally broken, but not
>>>>> just with the accounting.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to be part of a strategic decision on the part of the new
>>>>> OWASP Leadership that community just doesn’t matter, except for where some
>>>>> cash can be squeezed out for the Foundation.
>>>>>
>>>>> See here:
>>>>> https://www.peerlyst.com/posts/owasp-you-keep-saying-that-word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means-avid
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not optimistic about trust being re-established any time soon…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Avi D
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Sherif Mansour
>> OWASP Global Board Member & OWASP London Chapter Leader
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>
>
> --
> -Travis
>
-- 

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