[Owasp-leaders] Project Sponshorship, Support, and Finance

Sherif Mansour sherif.mansour at owasp.org
Wed Dec 27 21:27:45 UTC 2017

Dear all,

Sometimes we people talk about "politics" it really boils down to
miscommunication or mismanagement.
Politics infers malicious intent which is not the case.

Additionally I would like to make a quick note on bullying. This right now
an important issue for me, I have had OWASP leaders recount events to me in
tears, and I can see aggression on a constant basis. I think bullying has
lead to many members/staff to leave OWASP and it is a death by a thousand
cuts for this community. equally not listening to the community and not
treating it as a conversation doesn’t help.

As techie's we are used to quickly expressing our frustrations and in
public forums, sometimes its important to take a step back and understand
how that impacts other people.

To that end I have created a thread called "Identifying Improvement
Opportunities at OWASP - How to make OWASP a better place" I have included
the following information below on what I personally see as the current
state of OWASP/its challenges (see link
as well as feedback from the rest of the community on how to resolve these
issues (also in a link

Comments for each page are open to facilitate a conversation.

Take care and happy holidays everyone!
PS: apologies for the typos I have a really bad migraine

On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org> wrote:

> The AppSecEU team should have been informed that this topic of moving
> AppSecEU from Israel to UK was up for discussion at the OWASP BoD meeting,
> and one of the AppSecEU Israel team should have been invited to the OWASP
> BoD meeting to speak on the AppSecEU Israel team's behalf. Unfortunately,
> there was no one to represent the AppSecEU Israel team at the OWASP BoD
> meeting. A big mistake IMHO.
> Bev
> On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Tom Brennan - OWASP <tomb at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>> Encourage everyone to LISTEN to the “B-Side” and actual video/audio
>> recording of the Dec 17’ meeting themselves for context.
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1i2zdQ6QVFoWh06TBuJy2Zo5bvp9M50zJ
>> Prior there is also (12) month of related context from the public monthly
>> meetings, progress reports, recordings, and related from your elected board
>> representatives find it here: https://www.owasp.org/in
>> dex.php/Board#tab=How_Meetings_Operate
>> Be part of the live discussion in January, that is what communities do to
>> grow. Talk
>> Happy Holidays
>> </flame>
>> On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 10:29 AM Avi D (OWASP Israel) <
>> avi.douglen at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Brian,
>>> Yes it does seem that there is something fundamentally broken, but not
>>> just with the accounting.
>>> It seems to be part of a strategic decision on the part of the new OWASP
>>> Leadership that community just doesn’t matter, except for where some cash
>>> can be squeezed out for the Foundation.
>>> See here: https://www.peerlyst.com/posts/owasp-you-keep-saying-that-
>>> word-i-do-not-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means-avid
>>> Not optimistic about trust being re-established any time soon…
>>> Avi D
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Sherif Mansour
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