[Owasp-leaders] Released: OWASP Top 10 – 2017 Release Candidate

Tony Turner tony.turner at owasp.org
Thu Apr 27 13:57:52 UTC 2017


The OWASP Leaders list is not the only place that a standard such as T10
should be requesting data. The impact is too broad. It needs to be
communicated to a larger audience.

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Neil Smithline <neil.smithline at owasp.org>
wrote:

> My recollection of the process is that there was a call for data
> <http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2016-May/016625.html> for
> the T10 that was sent out May 21, _2016_. The deadline for responses was
> July 2016. Some vendors replied, others didn't.
>
> Neil
>
> [My first email bounced due to length so I had to trim the replies and
> resend. Sorry if you got a duplicate.]
>
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Thomas Ryan <tom.ryan at providesecurity.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Norm,
>>
>>
>>
>> I whole heartedly believe in vendor neutrality. The reason why I brought
>> up vendor names (Fortify, IBM, CheckMarx, etc) is because of the massive
>> datasets they have. I’m sure we can have an additional 3-5M Data points
>> added if we got more companies and a representative from each involved.
>>
>> How are we supposed to say this is a TOP 10 with the equivalent dataset
>> of one large bank (53K)? Not to mention the complexity of the different way
>> datasets are derived, including taking into account the limitations of each
>> data set?
>>
>>
>>
>> Once we have a broad enough dataset (much larger then 53K) , we reach out
>> to Joan Goodchild of CSO, and Kelly Jackson Higgins of Dark Reading for
>> publication about OWASP TOP 10 Open For Comment By Industry Leaders (Not
>> OWASP)
>>
>> I think that would be powerful Information to have. Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Have an amazing day!
>>
>>
>>
>> Thomas Ryan
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyryan/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Norman Yue [mailto:norman.yue at owasp.org]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2017 3:23 AM
>> *To:* Thomas Ryan <tom.ryan at providesecurity.com>
>> *Cc:* Dinis Cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org>; Dave Wichers <
>> dave.wichers at owasp.org>; OWASP Leaders <owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org>;
>> OWASP TopTen <owasp-topten at lists.owasp.org>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-leaders] Released: OWASP Top 10 – 2017 Release
>> Candidate
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd like to echo Tom's comment - vendor neutrally, I don't think this is
>> even about which vendors get to contribute data and drive the development
>> of what is widely considered a vendor-neutral best practice standard.
>> Actually, let's meditate on that for a second before we proceed: this isn't
>> a game, this is a discussion regarding industry best practice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Given the scope and potential impact of the OWASP Top Ten, and it's
>> reflection on OWASP as a group, I think it is absolutely crucial that this
>> in particular gets discussed openly, and those who have something to
>> participate can, and this is broadly endorsed by OWASP as a community,
>> instead of the ongoing dissension happening now.
>>
>>
>>
>> May I recommend setting up something like a Google Hangouts meeting for
>> people to both voice their feedback, as well as for the *relevant
>> top-ten working group to work with the community to decide something
>> mutually workable. *(is the working group open to this?)
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a grand and glorious day,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Norm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Thomas Ryan <
>> tom.ryan at providesecurity.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dinis,
>>
>>
>>
>> How can people participate remotely? One of the biggest questions asked
>> from my customers, why was Fortify/WebInspect, IBM and CheckMarx left out
>> participating and sharing data?
>>
>> In the sense of transparency, I work for HPE Fortify.
>>
>>
>>
>> When my customers asked, I reached out to my Product Management and
>> Research Team and they said no one was asked to share data or participate.
>>
>> I then reached out to friends at IBM and CHeckMarx and they said the
>> same.  Is there a reason why 3 of the 4 Leaders were left out from
>> Participating?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all your great work!
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom Ryan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Tony Turner
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