[Owasp-leaders] Conference Promoting itself as associated with OWASP / use of logo

Larry Conklin larry.conklin at owasp.org
Wed Nov 9 22:07:03 UTC 2016


Kelly, A little confused by your answer.

   - So I understand  they don't have a right to use our logo. Next step is?
   - Is this a  "pay to play" conference? How is this like our chapter
   local and region events?

Larry


On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Kelly Santalucia <kelly.santalucia at owasp.org
> wrote:

> Thanks Tiffany!  Steve and I have already been in contact.
>
> It looks like they copied over their 2016 supporter logos to their 2017
> site.  We did have agreements with them for 2016, which is why our logo is
> posted. At this time, we do not have any on file for thier 2017 events.
>
> The speaker and keynote opportunities are included in their sponsorship
> opportunities, they are not being sold separately. May events do this, even
> some of our own local and regional events offer to some extent a speaking
> opportunity in their sponsorships.
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Tiffany Long <tiffany.long at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Steven, this might be best directed to Kelly as she is the person who
>> can give you the most up to date information about our contracts--including
>> what our stipulations and common practices are and who is a partner at any
>> give time.  She is pretty awesome about being on the ball about these
>> things, so I cc'd her here.
>>
>> Best,
>> Tiffany
>>
>> Tiffany Long
>> Community Manager
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Bev Corwin <Bev.Corwin at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, good to apply consistently. I have wondered for local chapters,
>>> what the policy is, also for global. Haven't seen much, although have
>>> requested a few times.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 1:42 PM Steve Kosten <steve.kosten at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bev,
>>>>
>>>> Based upon the sponsorship package, they were making the keynote (see
>>>> page 7 of the sponsorship package) in addition to panelist slots.  Can't
>>>> say if they are all panelist slots, but I've been to one pay-to-play
>>>> conference in my past and walked out after the 2nd presentation started and
>>>> realized it was like the first sales pitch.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, I agree with you, we should apply policy
>>>> consistently.  If would propose OWASP not associate w/ such pay-to-play
>>>> conferences.
>>>>
>>>> Steve Kosten
>>>> OWASP Denver Chapter Leader
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>
>>>> Was that for a sponsorship speaker spot on the program? Does OWASP
>>>> define "pay to play" exclusions in their policies. I agree that "pay to
>>>> play" is a problem, but has anyone put existing co-marketing partners
>>>> through similar due diligence? My only concern is singling out one group,
>>>> and not applying consistency in policies of this nature. Our policies
>>>> should be consistently applied, IMHO, to avoid any conflicts of interests
>>>> or other such discrimination practices.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Bev
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Steve Kosten <steve.kosten at owasp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Leaders,
>>>>
>>>> I was approached by a conference (Cyber Security Summit) that will be
>>>> run in Denver in 2017 for cross-promotional purposes.  They currently list
>>>> OWASP as a partner and use our logo (http://cybersummitusa.com/par
>>>> tners/).  In doing some research on this conference before agreeing to
>>>> any cross-promotion, I found that they are selling panel slots and even
>>>> selling the keynote speaker slot (see attached sponsorship package).  I
>>>> found this appalling and complete counter to the OWASP way.  OWASP Denver
>>>> will not be associated with this conference and I know other local security
>>>> organizations who refuse to be associated with this conference.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, they are using our logo and claiming OWASP is a
>>>> partner?  Can anyone from the board chime in and let us know if this is
>>>> approved?  If so, I think we need to revisit who we associate ourselves
>>>> with.  If not, can we approach them and have them remove our logo?
>>>>
>>>> Steve Kosten
>>>> OWASP Denver Chapter Leader
>>>>
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