[Owasp-leaders] Recruiters posting jobs on Meetup?

Bill Sempf bill at sempf.net
Sat Jan 30 17:56:11 UTC 2016


That's exactly what we decided to do. One of the organizers manages the
LinkedIn group, and she has agreed to be the gatekeeper.

Looking pretty good. Thanks for the conversation, everyone!

S


On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Matt Konda <matt.konda at owasp.org> wrote:

> In Chicago, we ask recruiters to use a LinkedIn group set up for that
> purpose as an alternative to the Meetup or email list.
>
> Matt
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Frank Catucci <frank.catucci at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> A hiring digest on the leaders list may even be useful if it doesn't get
>> flooded. M2c
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Noreen Whysel <noreen.whysel at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I've seen local groups use "hiring" and "looking" stickers on name tags
>> at events. Great if you are openly looking, not so much if you are on the
>> fence or don't want your employer to know. OWASP Foundation allows job
>> postings to it's Facebook group. We just need to make sure to move them
>> there when they end up on the wrong board.
>>
>> Noreen Whysel
>> Community Manager
>> OWASP Foundation
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Rinaldi Rampen <rinaldi.rampen at owasp.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> We get a lot of requests by recruiters to do so and we ask them not to
>>> spam the group. What we do at meetings is ask who are hiring for appsec or
>>> appsec-related jobs at the meeting and then say if anyone is looking or
>>> interested in a new opportunity talk to one of the people who raised their
>>> hand. I know there are the occasional recruiter that comes to our meetings
>>> and if they follow our rules and nicely network we don't have an issue with
>>> it. The flip side, I know everyone could use more appsec talent internally
>>> so in reality everyone is trying to recruit/hire each other ;)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Noreen Whysel <noreen.whysel at owasp.org
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> In Meetup the mailing list and bulletin board are separate. If you send
>>>> to the mailing list, it doesn't go to the bulletin board and vice versa.
>>>> Both lists are archived separately on the site. At least that has always
>>>> been my understanding.
>>>>
>>>> <Screen Shot 2016-01-29 at 12.19.48 PM.png>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> Noreen Whysel
>>>> Community Manager
>>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Bill Sempf <bill at sempf.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, yes. This is to the meetup bulletin board. Members have a choice
>>>>> to have posts emailed to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> S
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Noreen Whysel <
>>>>> noreen.whysel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does meetup have moderation? Could you require recruiters to post to
>>>>>> the bulletin board instead of the email list?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Noreen Whysel
>>>>>> Community Manager
>>>>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Bill Sempf <bill at sempf.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right, and spammers don't ask first! I mean, if someone is nice
>>>>>>> enough to ask, I think it is fair if it is within the rules.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if someone posts without asking (which hasn't happened yet!)
>>>>>>> then usual spamhammer techniques apply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Noreen Whysel <
>>>>>>> noreen.whysel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In that case you could block the spammer from your meetup group.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Noreen Whysel
>>>>>>>> Community Manager
>>>>>>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Tony Turner <tony.turner at owasp.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd be careful here as you could open the door for a lot of
>>>>>>>> recruiter spam. At one point I was seeing about 95% recruiter emails in
>>>>>>>> pretty substantial volume, often for competing roles. You might want to
>>>>>>>> poll your membership and find out how they feel, it tends to vary meetup to
>>>>>>>> meetup for me. From my stance, I only allow companies recruiting for
>>>>>>>> internal roles. External recruiters are not welcome to spam us. We get
>>>>>>>> some, but I quickly let them know the best way to reach our audience is to
>>>>>>>> think about sponsoring a meeting, come out and talk face to face with our
>>>>>>>> membership.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Bill Sempf <bill at sempf.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, everyone. We have a well respected recruiter that asked if he
>>>>>>>>> could post a job on our Meetup discussion forum. Are there rules around
>>>>>>>>> that? I reviewed the Chapter Handbook but I didn't find anything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Tony Turner
>>>>>>>> OWASP Orlando Chapter Founder/Co-Leader
>>>>>>>> WAFEC Project Leader
>>>>>>>> STING Game Project Leader
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