[Owasp-leaders] Recruiters posting jobs on Meetup?

Noreen Whysel noreen.whysel at owasp.org
Fri Jan 29 20:36:00 UTC 2016


Correction: We allow job postings on the LinkedIn group. I accidentally
typed Facebook.

Noreen Whysel
Community Manager
OWASP Foundation

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Rinaldi Rampen <rinaldi.rampen at owasp.org>
wrote:

> Noreen,
>
> That is a good idea but correct, if you are "stealthy" looking and don't
> want your co-workers/employer know might not be ideal.
>
> Cheers,
> -R2
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Noreen Whysel <noreen.whysel at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I've seen local groups use "hiring" and "looking" stickers on name tags
>> at events. Great if you are openly looking, not so much if you are on the
>> fence or don't want your employer to know. OWASP Foundation allows job
>> postings to it's Facebook group. We just need to make sure to move them
>> there when they end up on the wrong board.
>>
>> Noreen Whysel
>> Community Manager
>> OWASP Foundation
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Rinaldi Rampen <rinaldi.rampen at owasp.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> We get a lot of requests by recruiters to do so and we ask them not to
>>> spam the group. What we do at meetings is ask who are hiring for appsec or
>>> appsec-related jobs at the meeting and then say if anyone is looking or
>>> interested in a new opportunity talk to one of the people who raised their
>>> hand. I know there are the occasional recruiter that comes to our meetings
>>> and if they follow our rules and nicely network we don't have an issue with
>>> it. The flip side, I know everyone could use more appsec talent internally
>>> so in reality everyone is trying to recruit/hire each other ;)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Noreen Whysel <noreen.whysel at owasp.org
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> In Meetup the mailing list and bulletin board are separate. If you send
>>>> to the mailing list, it doesn't go to the bulletin board and vice versa.
>>>> Both lists are archived separately on the site. At least that has always
>>>> been my understanding.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> Noreen Whysel
>>>> Community Manager
>>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Bill Sempf <bill at sempf.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, yes. This is to the meetup bulletin board. Members have a choice
>>>>> to have posts emailed to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> S
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Noreen Whysel <
>>>>> noreen.whysel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does meetup have moderation? Could you require recruiters to post to
>>>>>> the bulletin board instead of the email list?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Noreen Whysel
>>>>>> Community Manager
>>>>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Bill Sempf <bill at sempf.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right, and spammers don't ask first! I mean, if someone is nice
>>>>>>> enough to ask, I think it is fair if it is within the rules.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if someone posts without asking (which hasn't happened yet!)
>>>>>>> then usual spamhammer techniques apply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Noreen Whysel <
>>>>>>> noreen.whysel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In that case you could block the spammer from your meetup group.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Noreen Whysel
>>>>>>>> Community Manager
>>>>>>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Tony Turner <tony.turner at owasp.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd be careful here as you could open the door for a lot of
>>>>>>>> recruiter spam. At one point I was seeing about 95% recruiter emails in
>>>>>>>> pretty substantial volume, often for competing roles. You might want to
>>>>>>>> poll your membership and find out how they feel, it tends to vary meetup to
>>>>>>>> meetup for me. From my stance, I only allow companies recruiting for
>>>>>>>> internal roles. External recruiters are not welcome to spam us. We get
>>>>>>>> some, but I quickly let them know the best way to reach our audience is to
>>>>>>>> think about sponsoring a meeting, come out and talk face to face with our
>>>>>>>> membership.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Bill Sempf <bill at sempf.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, everyone. We have a well respected recruiter that asked if he
>>>>>>>>> could post a job on our Meetup discussion forum. Are there rules around
>>>>>>>>> that? I reviewed the Chapter Handbook but I didn't find anything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Tony Turner
>>>>>>>> OWASP Orlando Chapter Founder/Co-Leader
>>>>>>>> WAFEC Project Leader
>>>>>>>> STING Game Project Leader
>>>>>>>> tony.turner at owasp.org
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