[Owasp-leaders] Regarding Project reviews and metrics misconceptions

Munir Njiru munir.njiru at owasp.org
Fri Feb 26 13:47:07 UTC 2016

This is great :)

Munir Njenga,
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On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Tom Brennan - OWASP <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:

> This is understandable and now the second time.  Since we are coming to
> full stop on OWASP projects again and on reviews OWASP will need to adjust
> 1) I am going to bring together experienced project people from all over
> the world face to face for a paid offsite within 45 days.
> 2) I am going to continue on the process of hiring full time technical
> staff for the purpose of run day to day project operations the Job will be
> posted publicly shortly
> 3) We are going to need do a public relaunch in Q3
> Thank you for your investment of thousands of hours and I look forward to
> seeing you in person at the project reboot offsite if you are available to
> travel to it.
> To all projects that want to start, or evolve across the different
> "stages" we will have to address this after a short pause OWASP leaders
> (you) can define rough consensus and address this as part of its strategic
> goal investment for 2016.
> Thank you for all you and the other volunteers like Enrico have done to
> date.
> Tom Brennan
> Global Board Directors
> OWASP Projects
> On Friday, February 26, 2016, johanna curiel curiel <
> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Hi Paul, Tom
>> Based on the emails I exchanged yesterday with Paul, I have the
>> impression that there are many misconceptions of what volunteers in
>> previous committees were doing and that was not to maintain and keep up
>> Project dashboards or metrics.
>> Since 2009, this was done by Poulo Coimbra, then Samantha (partially with
>> help of Kait-Disney) and I assisted when no one was working as staff.
>> Check the wiki updates and Dashboard since 2009. You don't have to
>> believe me but verify facts.
>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=OWASP_Projects_Dashboard&offset=&limit=500&action=history
>> I also understand you would like to hire a technical project manager
>> because Claudia seems to have too much work, or that I set her to work with
>> things not updated since 2 years ago?
>> Please , get facts right. I did already did clean up in May 2015:
>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Johanna_Curiel&offset=&limit=500&target=Johanna+Curiel
>> And publicised a Piktographic report:
>> https://magic.piktochart.com/output/6323285-project-reviews
>> Including all the updates of project in Openhub. I was the one who did
>> that.
>> I would say I will be more than happy that the foundation takes over this
>> entire review process from volunteers because it has never worked.
>> Nor in 2009, neither now, expecting volunteers to do reviews,* although
>> they never kept metrics, wiki inventories or dashboards except me.*
>> *BTW I work full time.Study & Work*
>> Also, it seems that there is a big confusion as the only thing we are
>> trying to do is to make the review process easier by building an overview
>> criteria and self-asssesment, so leaders can determine were they are. I
>> have written this so many times but it seems no one read my proposals or
>> emails.
>> I stop my activities in reviews and proposal.
>> At this point , I feel that there is a lot of misinformation of facts and
>> I feel I'm being judge in a way that I don't consider fair. At this point
>> I'm feeling judged, mistreated from certain board members with comments
>> such as 'none asked you to do any work here'.
>> Wow , nice way to treat volunteers, no wonder why there is no one helping
>> with this.
>> I wish you good luck with this activity.
>> It has not been easy for anyone since 2009.
>> Cheers
>> --
>> Johanna Curiel
>> OWASP Volunteer
> --
> Tom Brennan
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