[Owasp-leaders] Fwd: Urgent** Get Connected and Status Update : Chapter Leaders only

Liam Smit liam.smit at gmail.com
Fri Apr 1 18:28:49 UTC 2016


Erm April fools day.... Don't forget timezones... ;-)

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Mark Miller <mark.miller at owasp.org> wrote:

> Yeah... that doesn't sound quite right, now, does it. If that were true,
> anyone one could make up any title and say they managed an entire country.
> Nope. That's not the way it works.
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Mark Miller <mark.miller at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> I am glad to announce that *I will be leading OWASP USA* now. All
>> chapters are being monitored. Please ensure you maintain activity or else
>> STRICT ACTION will be taken against those chapters. We have noticed few
>> Leaders are misusing OWASP name for commercial purpose, this will not be
>> tolerated. Legal action will be taken.
>>
>> We are giving 30 April 2016 as deadline for making your chapter active
>> again. If still found to be inactive, then *Leadership will be
>> transferred to more capable/willing candidate*.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Commander in Chief
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Munir Njiru <munir.njiru at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In Kenya -> The Nairobi chapter was absorbed and we co-lead it now to
>>> achieve a more holistic approach . This however came from an amicable
>>> agreement so buy ins are important.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the complement Andy :)
>>>
>>> Munir Njenga,
>>> OWASP Chapter Leader (Kenya) || Information Security Consultant ||
>>> Developer
>>> Mob   (KE) +254 (0) 734960670
>>>
>>> =============================
>>> Chapter Page: www.owasp.org/index.php/Kenya
>>> Project Site:
>>> http://alienwithin.github.io/OWASP-mth3l3m3nt-framework/
>>> Email: munir.njiru at owasp.org
>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/OWASP.Kenya
>>> Mailing List: https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-Kenya
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Andy Lewis <alewis at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Akash and Valibhau - the "O" in OWASP stands for "Open," so I'd
>>>> personally be inclined to disregard the "strictly monitored" & "Leadership
>>>> will be transferred" phrases, or any such megalomaniacal statements.
>>>> Even so, there are guidelines for use of the name & logo (see link at
>>>> the bottom of this email). The Board would be able to articulate in detail
>>>> those guidelines and a history of actions taken, so hopefully someone from
>>>> the Board has PM'd you.  I've cc:'d Tom Brennan with whom I've had a
>>>> working OWASP relationship for >10 yrs; his counsel can be relied upon
>>>> without fail.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that the tone is offensive and hope that you will see past this
>>>> and continue to pursue the OWASP mission in spite of occasional
>>>> distractions like this.
>>>>
>>>> 9 years ago I had a similar event - an individual returned from AppSec
>>>> USA and decided that both Colorado Chapters needed to be more active.  The
>>>> result of that conflict yielded an ongoing regional conference, because the
>>>> Denver Chapter leader and I decided that if someone was so intensely
>>>> motivated then we ought to put him to work.  So, we all met over coffee and
>>>> set a date and responsibilities for the 1st annual SnowFROC (
>>>> www.snowfroc.com), the largest appsec conference in our region.
>>>> In our case, the "despot's" motivation was sincere, and he was willing
>>>> to put action behind his words.
>>>> 9 years later, he is a good friend and we invited him to speak at this
>>>> year's conference :-)
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes to you and your Chapters for a similarly happy outcome!  If
>>>> there's anything I can do to help, please PM me.
>>>>
>>>> Munir - I appreciate your even-handed tone and approach.  I wish I'd
>>>> known you 9 years ago :-)
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Marketing/Resources#The_Brand_Usage_Rules
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 1, 2016, Munir Njiru <munir.njiru at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> If this hasn't been put to a vote by all local chapters , I believe it
>>>>> would be a more appropriate approach to follow to avoid the friction. It
>>>>> may be a good idea to standardise but it also needs buy in or else it will
>>>>> remain purely just an idea and start constant political wars than progress.
>>>>>
>>>>> My 2 cents
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Munir Njenga,
>>>>> OWASP Chapter Leader (Kenya) || Information Security Consultant ||
>>>>> Developer
>>>>> Mob   (KE) +254 (0) 734960670
>>>>>
>>>>> =============================
>>>>> Chapter Page: www.owasp.org/index.php/Kenya
>>>>> Project Site:
>>>>> http://alienwithin.github.io/OWASP-mth3l3m3nt-framework/
>>>>> Email: munir.njiru at owasp.org
>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/OWASP.Kenya
>>>>> Mailing List: https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-Kenya
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Akash Mahajan <
>>>>> akash.mahajan at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Fellow Chapter Leaders,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This email has been sent to a bunch of city OWASP  chapters in India.
>>>>>> I would like clarification on under what rules of OWASP Handbook does
>>>>>> this kind of action is defined under.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I understand once we have mature city chapters in a
>>>>>> country, a country wide chapter is defunct as that makes no sense. As it
>>>>>> is, OWASP as a legal entity exists only in the USA (AFAIK, I could be wrong)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The tone of the email is quite hostile and without any transparency
>>>>>> on how a few individuals have become we have to report to, this seems
>>>>>> unfair and this point a bit of sham.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I apologise if my email is reactionary in its tone, but while we are
>>>>>> doing some excellent work in our city, we honestly didn't sign up to be
>>>>>> dictated by folks who in their introductory email seem to have forgotten
>>>>>> common courtesy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for reading.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Milan Singh Thakur <milan at owasp.org>
>>>>>> Date: 31 March 2016 at 17:45
>>>>>> Subject: Urgent** Get Connected and Status Update : Chapter Leaders
>>>>>> only
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Team,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am glad to announce that I and Nitin Pandey will be leading OWASP
>>>>>> INDIA now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need to sync up and work effectively hereafter to ensure
>>>>>> consistency of chapters in India. If you guys have any issues regarding
>>>>>> your chapters and need support, then feel free to ping me or Nitin for it.
>>>>>> We will ensure full support actively.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are going to organise *AppSec INDIA* event starting this year. We
>>>>>> will choose active chapter Leaders to be part of INDIA Board and Event
>>>>>> Committee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Note*: All chapters are being monitored now. So please ensure you
>>>>>> maintain activity or else STRICT ACTION will be taken against those
>>>>>> chapters. We have noticed few Leaders are misusing OWASP name for
>>>>>> commercial purpose, this will not be tolerated. Legal action will be taken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are giving 30 April 2016 as deadline for making your chapter
>>>>>> active again. If still found to be inactive, then Leadership will be
>>>>>> transferred to more capable/willing candidate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If any buddy of your's is willing to start new
>>>>>> chapter/student_chapter, then let us know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lot of surprises are coming this year for OWASP Buddies :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Milan Singh Thakur
>>>>>> INDIA LEADER
>>>>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>>>> Mob: +91 9405901005
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>> Akash Mahajan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *That Web Application Security Guy* | +91 99 805 271 82
>>>>>> akashm.com | *@makash* on twitter | linkd.in/webappsecguy
>>>>>> *OWASP Bangalore Chapter Lead | null Community Manager*
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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> *Curator and Founder, Trusted Software Alliance*
>
> *Host and Executive Producer, OWASP 24/7 Podcast ChannelCommunity
> Advocate, Sonatype*
>
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