[Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-community] Project and Chapter Funding Proposal

Jim Manico jim.manico at owasp.org
Thu Oct 1 07:23:52 UTC 2015

Richard, if you remove that one aspect of the proposal, what do you 
think about the other 9 points?

- Jim

On 9/30/15 8:40 PM, Richard Greenberg wrote:
> Thanks for the proposal Josh and Jim. Sadly, I cannot support this. 
> "Budgeted money that wasn’t spent during the calendar year would be 
> returned back to the OWASP Foundation general funds." No, that will 
> not work. Our chapter meeting attendance shot up to 80-120 once we 
> started providing a catered dinner, paid for by vendor support and our 
> yearly conference. We loose our money to the Foundation, and we are 
> moving month to month without any backup funding. This is no way to 
> run a chapter. We have reserves for the months we cannot get a sponsor.
> Please do not lecture me about attendees should want to attend even if 
> we don't provide food. That is a bad statement. We want attendees, and 
> if have to entice them, so be it. Getting the word out about secure 
> development trumps any philosophical differences anyone may have.
> Basically, in an attempt to manage the finances, you risk alienating 
> the very essence of who OWASP is: the Chapters. Chapters need control 
> of their own budgets. We do all the heavy lifting to generate our own 
> income. We deserve to manage it.
> You want to see a budget? That is reasonable. You threaten to take 
> away our money? Absolutely the wrong approach. Terrible proposal!!
> Richard Greenberg, CISSP
> President, OWASP Los Angeles, www.owaspla.org <http://www.appsecusa.org/>
> ISSA Fellow
> VP, ISSA Los Angeles, www.issa-la.org <http://www.appsecusa.org/>
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardagreenberg
> (424) 261-8111
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org 
> <mailto:jim.manico at owasp.org>> wrote:
>     Hello all,
>     If you have a moment, please take a look at the funding proposal
>     below. The board is going to vote on this soon. I'd be grateful if
>     you had time to review and provide comments.
>     Cheers,
>     -- 
>     Jim Manico
>     Global Board Member
>     OWASP Foundation
>     https://www.owasp.org
>     Join me at AppSecUSA 2015!
>     On 9/25/15 10:20 PM, Jim Manico wrote:
>         OWASP Community,
>         Josh Sokol proposed a major funding initiative for projects
>         and chapters at the OWASP global board meeting earlier today.
>         https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Proposal_for_2015-09-25_OWASP_Board_Meeting
>         I personally think this is an excellent proposal and would
>         like to call for a board vote early next week so our staff can
>         prep for this for 2016.
>         In the spirit of transparency and even more important -
>         getting valuable feedback from the community - we are
>         publishing this proposal to the community at large.
>         Please read this carefully and let us know what you think
>         https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Proposal_for_2015-09-25_OWASP_Board_Meeting
>         Aloha,
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Jim Manico
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OWASP Foundation
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