[Owasp-leaders] Initiative Bounty program - Heavier testing and requirements for Defender Libraries

johanna curiel curiel johanna.curiel at owasp.org
Wed Nov 25 16:51:46 UTC 2015


Hi Claudia

Thats great news, so in fact all the work is right now run volunteer based?

I think in this case, could you provide us with a form of reports of the
status for allowing or accepting projects so the entire community is aware
of this new process? I was not aware of this change ;-)

regards

Johanna

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Claudia Casanovas <
claudia.aviles-casanovas at owasp.org> wrote:

> HI Johanna,
>
> I just want to be clear I am not accepting or evaluating projects.  I have
> created platform for  volunteers to review projects and the community will
> have a chance to provide feedback and before acceptance.    We have just
> started this effort last week with Project Task Force and currently have
> about 6 volunteers on board.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 8:42 AM, johanna curiel curiel <
> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Sure. I just have one concern.
>>
>> We need a way to measure the agreement of the proposal.
>>
>> For the community, I can launch a Survey, but as far as I'm concern and
>> informed. The project task force is right now quite inactive except for the
>> work Claudia is doing with accepting and evaluating new projects. The task
>> force as original intended is run by volunteers with the support of Claudia
>> as staff and project coordinator.
>>
>> So the question is : would it be enough to set a survey with the entire
>> community can participate?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Johanna
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Paul Ritchie <paul.ritchie at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Johanna, this is great work.
>>>
>>> I had hoped that someone in the community would pick up on all the email
>>> discussion and "take action" to form a proposal and convert many of the
>>> good suggestions and recommendations from leaders into "accepted OWASP
>>> Policy".
>>>
>>> So, Thanks for leading by example.
>>>
>>> As I understand, the next step is to have the Community, and then the
>>> Project Task Force "agree to the proposal", and once that is done, it would
>>> go to the Board for a decision at their Dec. 9 meeting for the 'stamp of
>>> approval' to implement new OWASP policy.
>>>
>>> Again, thanks, Paul
>>>
>>> Best Regards, Paul Ritchie
>>> OWASP Executive Director
>>> paul.ritchie at owasp.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:31 AM, johanna curiel curiel <
>>> johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi leaders
>>>>
>>>> Recently, I had a wide discussion with the Board regarding setting
>>>> higher criteria for projects in the area of defender Libraries such as
>>>> implement heavier security testing for them. A couple of weeks ago we also
>>>> discussed about this issue, especially because it holds a certain level of
>>>> responsability.
>>>>
>>>> If we are setting projects that are supposed to protect applications,
>>>> but if we don't even do a minimum check up on them, then we definitely
>>>> don't practice what we preach ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Fact is, there is no testing at all required for these libraries and we
>>>> don't know if they withstand  the security as they claim, especially if
>>>> these projects are being advertised as 'LAB' or Flagship.Or even worse if
>>>> they make the application more insecure ;-P
>>>>
>>>> With some of the ideas and discussions related to this,we came with the
>>>> following plan, which I'll be supporting as a Pilot project for one
>>>> flagship or lab Defender library, and see if we can implement this as part
>>>> of the Process review for defender libraries willing to become Flagship (or
>>>> hold their status).
>>>>
>>>> *For incubators(Defender libraries):*
>>>> Minimum requirement:
>>>> Projects in the area of Incubator defender libraries must provide and
>>>> publiciseat least quarterly automated scans (analysis through
>>>> Coverity/SWAMP or any other automated DAST/SAST scan tool) to verify their
>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>> LAB*(Defender libraries)*:
>>>> Minimum requirements
>>>> Same as incubator,including a bounty program sponsored by OWASP(with a
>>>> maximum amount of US500) to test the project through bug bounty when
>>>> requesting to become flagship.
>>>>
>>>> Flagship*(Defender libraries)*
>>>> Same as Incubator and labs, including a bounty program sponsored by
>>>> OWASP, to test the project through bug bounty program.
>>>>
>>>> The Bug bounty program will be run once a year to verify their status.
>>>>
>>>> The idea is that all these projects must  publicise security scans as a
>>>> minimum requirement to verify their security level. We are aware that
>>>> automated scans can miss issues and contain false positives, but at least
>>>> there is a minimum check up and if issues are found, they must publicise
>>>> this on their wiki and avoid any users to use them as they are.
>>>>
>>>> PILOT project proposal for ONE flagship or LAB project (example
>>>> CRSFGuard)
>>>>
>>>>    - Create draft plan with Project leader
>>>>    - Do a static code analysis in the Coverity/SWAMP/similar tool
>>>>    - Verify results with Project leader
>>>>    - If no major issues are found, deploy library in a dummy site to
>>>>    test the scoped issue(s)
>>>>    - Do a vulnerability scan using ZAP/BURP to see if they are able to
>>>>    catch the scoped vulnerability (in this case CRSF attack)
>>>>    - No bug found then proceed to setup 'scoped' bounty program for
>>>>    finding specific CRSF vulnerabilities (bypass crypto/CRSF missing server
>>>>    side validation)
>>>>    - Run the bounty with a max period of 3 months or less (if scoped
>>>>    issues are found before)
>>>>    - If issue found, we proceed to log the issue into Github's project
>>>>    - Leader must create warning on his wiki and github page regarding
>>>>    the bug
>>>>    - Allow leader to work to fix the issue for a max period of 3 months
>>>>    - If issue is not fixed by then, project should be set as inactive
>>>>    or 'in progress'==> whether way users must be aware of the security issues
>>>>    - In case the library is 'unbreakable' after 3 months , no money
>>>>    has been spent in this period and we have effectively QA the library until
>>>>    a further new version
>>>>
>>>> A draft version right now can be found here:
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Br4I8jKc0tyzdBCq4ohO1LcDNL861xldMBlkA_z6v34/edit
>>>>
>>>> Jim will be providing also his input on the definition of the scope.
>>>>
>>>> Your feedback and ideas are all welcome as we are in the process to
>>>> define the pilot project scope
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Johanna
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
>
>
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>
> Claudia Aviles-Casanovas <claudia.aviles-casanovas at owasp.org>
> Project Coordinator
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