[Owasp-leaders] Request for OWASP board to approves 100K for a project Summit in 2016

Eoin Keary eoin.keary at owasp.org
Mon Jun 29 13:13:47 UTC 2015


I'm in.

Eoin Keary
OWASP Volunteer
@eoinkeary



> On 29 Jun 2015, at 16:13, johanna curiel curiel <johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
> 
> Tom Brennan is Joining the committee
> + me 
> @Claudia: Automatically part of the committee as Project coordinator ;-)
> 
> Who else wants to join?
> 
> Deadline: 30th July. We will create a proposal and discuss the next approach.
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 2:33 PM, johanna curiel curiel <johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>> 100K can allow us to involve more projects but I believe in regulations.
>> 
>> After having review so many projects, there are many people that were starting a project with no content and after a year or 2, an empty wiki page has hanging with the title project, but there was no project content to be found.
>> 
>> I don't think we want to sponsor this kind of behaviour. 
>> 
>> We want to sponsor and support those projects that are working hard to get things done. Recession period is not the point here. It's about starting a project in a wiki page that never comes with a deliverable. But lets also consider that if a project has been inactive for more than 3 years and suddenly a project leader wants to 'revive the project', the summit should not be used as a kind of paid vacation and 'by the way' participate in the summit.
>> 
>> Thats why we need some kind of rules for participation and regulation to avoid abuses. 
>> 
>> I think we need to make clear that anyone that wants to make use of funds for summits, have to produce a clear deliverable that contributes to their project. That's why now, our rules for starting projects must have some deliverables, but even so, there are still many projects that produce very little and are called projects. Like once Josh said, we should not confuse concepts or ideas and call them projects.
>> 
>> I also like the idea of small events based on different regions that are more accessible for project leaders in different regions and time zones.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Spot on Tobias.
>>> A breakdown of the 100k would be a first step. Do we need 100k or more/less?
>>> 
>>> I'm happy to help with this given my decent track record with flagship projects.
>>> 
>>> I'd still suggest having more than 1 summit and having them more frequent globally as projects may need a summit event at different times. - more frequent and smaller events.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Eoin Keary
>>> OWASP Volunteer
>>> @eoinkeary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Jun 2015, at 21:00, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I agree. And big thanks to all the interest and voluntary announced contributions. 
>>>> It will be great see all this come to fruition. 
>>>> And I believe it will also be good to see some basic plan for this to see how much money we like to spend and how. Some more details down the road will also help motivate chapters and sponsors even more. 
>>>> Best regards, Tobias
>>>> 
>>>> Ps.: Small addition: if people feel that a committee is too complicated, we could also handle this as an "initiative". Whatever works best for the team. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28/06/15 19:35, Josh Sokol wrote:
>>>>> It's great to see a discussion already happening around this.  For context, this was something that Dinis, Andrew, Mark, and I talked about on the OWASP Podcast that we recorded last Friday.  It was an "initiative" that Dinis suggested as a way to encourage Chapters and Projects to donate some of their "ring-fenced" account money and further the OWASP mission.  With Tom already offering a $10k donation from the OWASP NJ Chapter, it looks like we could pretty easily raise the $100k that Dinis suggests and then some.  I believe that the Board would be in full support of this initiative.  What I would propose is that those interested should establish a new "OWASP Project Summit Committee" under the new Committees 2.0 model (http://owasp.blogspot.com/2014/07/owasp-committees-20.html).  The first step in this process is for a community member to propose the new committee here on the Leaders List stating their rationale and desired scope for creating a new committee.  Basically, we need someone to step up to lead the initial effort of scoping what this committee will be responsible for doing.  Once we have that, the Board will determine if there is an existing conflict (I doubt it) and then will initiate a public call for people interested in membership.  By creating a committee for this initiative, we are empowering those committee members to take action as defined in the scope and spend money as allocated by the budget.  Is there someone who would like to take lead on forming the committee?
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~josh
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Dinis Cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> And then ask for a a team or OWASP leaders to lead that effort.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Josh and Andrew can provide more details on the context of this request
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dinis
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