[Owasp-leaders] Should OWASP projects (and in particular ZAP) aim to leave the OWASP nest?

psiinon psiinon at gmail.com
Wed Dec 2 14:08:10 UTC 2015

Hi Tony,

Did I answer that in my reply to Josh?
Or at least partially;)



On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Tony Turner <tony.turner at owasp.org> wrote:

> Pretend for a moment there is no OWASP. What are the next steps for ZAP
> and what do you ultimately want to achieve? How is OWASP helping or
> hindering those goals? How would leaving OWASP help or hinder those goals?
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:05 AM, psiinon <psiinon at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In a recent thread
>> <http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2015-December/015726.html>
>> Dinis stated:
>> "all Owasp projects should be seen as research projects. The moment they
>> are big enough (i.e. big team, support, deliverables) and wish to move
>> beyond the 'research label' , is the moment where they need to leave the
>> 'Owasp nest' and face the real world by themselves"
>> I have a lot of sympathy for this perspective, and have indeed been
>> wondering if now is the right time for ZAP to "go it alone".
>> I'd like to stress that this is not just because of recent controversies,
>> so I'd like to discuss these as general principals rather than in relation
>> to recent events.
>> I believe that OWASP has been very beneficial to ZAP, but I'm not sure
>> that OWASP is really set up to support projects that have grown to ZAP's
>> size.
>> So, the 2 questions I'd be very interested in feedback on:
>>    - Should OWASP projects aim to stand on their own outside of OWASP?
>>    - Is this the right time for ZAP to do so?
>> Many thanks,
>> Simon
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