[Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-community] [OWASP-chapters] Growing Your Chapter + 90% / 10% Splits

Gaston Toth gaston.toth at owasp.org
Thu Nov 20 02:44:05 UTC 2014


Congrats John!!!
Greetings from Argentina.



On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 5:35 PM, John Patrick Lita <
john.patrick.lita at owasp.org> wrote:

> Hello guys! im John Patrick Lita from OWASP Manila a new Chapter Leader
>
> Thank you and regards to all!
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:09 AM, OWASP <noreen.whysel at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> I think it is possible for one person to manage up to three Meetups at
>> the same rate. It could be something to look into for regional leads to
>> support.
>>
>> Noreen
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Kate Hartmann <kate.hartmann at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Leaders,  this is a great discussion!
>>
>> The dues for meetup can most definitely be reimbursed from your chapter
>> account.
>>
>> When I reached out to Meetup back in early 2014 regarding a corporate
>> account for OWASP, they were not willing to provide any discounts or group
>> rates for us.  Instead, they instructed me to create a "Meetup Everywhere"
>> account for the Foundation.  I did that, and it can be found here:
>> http://www.meetup.com/OWASP-Foundation/  This "global account" does not
>> have nearly the same functionality as the individual accounts, but any
>> chapter is free to use it.
>>
>> I have again reached out to the team at Meetup to see what can be done
>> for OWASP at a global scale.  If anyone in the community has a point of
>> contact for the company, that would be helpful.  I will continue to work on
>> this along with Kelly Santalucia, our Business Liaison, and Noreen Whysel,
>> our Community Manager as it is indeed, a true added benefit for our global
>> organization.
>>
>> Kate Hartmann
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Timur 'x' Khrotko (owasp) <
>> timur at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanx to this thread I created a meetup group for our chapter
>>> <http://www.meetup.com/OWASP-HU/>, and w/o doing anything we
>>> automatically got 40 members within 6 days.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't it be possible to cover the cost of meetup.com (Julian
>>> mentioned as a cons) from the budget a chapter has on its account of OWASP
>>> from sponsors?
>>> In our case it is relevant, since we do not maintain any legal body
>>> (unreasonable cost and time to have such in Central Europe), thus we handle
>>> no money. (Now I pay it from my pocket/card.)
>>>
>>> Regards:
>>> Timur
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Julian Berton <julian.berton at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As Andrew pointed out OWASP Melbourne chapter has been using Meetup
>>>> for just longer than a year now. Its not perfect but overall a platform
>>>> such as Meetup definitely makes managing/growing OWASP chapters much easier
>>>> for both the leaders and members.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a quick list of some of the pros and cons:
>>>>
>>>> Pros:
>>>> - RSVP feature - even though its not 100% accurate it gives indications
>>>> of numbers for each meetup. also gives us an indication of active members
>>>> - allows the use of google analytics so we can track page views and
>>>> growth and how far our marketing efforts have gone.
>>>> - user friendly interface for adding and viewing chapter meetings
>>>> - too many features to mention! eg. commenting on meetup, export
>>>> meeting to calendar, sending updates to select groups of users(i.e. only
>>>> RSVPed members)
>>>> - develops a mini social community, more so than a mailing list imo
>>>> - and the list goes on... can post photos of meetups, allows adding of
>>>> sponsors logos, option for members to rate and give feedback on meetups, etc
>>>> - BIG ONE FOR GROWING -  cross promoting of meetup groups. In Melbourne
>>>> Meetup.com is used heavily by developers, sysadmins etc to host
>>>> meetups. We use this to get more developers interested and aware of OWASP
>>>> Melbourne. As an example there is a Melbourne Mobile meetup group (~750
>>>> members) which we contacted when we did our meetups on both Android and iOS
>>>> security. They announced our meetup along with a few other related meetups
>>>> and we got a massive boost in numbers attending and number of signups. We
>>>> had ~80 people compared with ~20 people from previous events. Another
>>>> advantage is that the barrier to entry for existing Meetup members to join
>>>> other meetups is very low.
>>>> - more transparent overall, everyone can see how active a meetup is
>>>> with respect to both number of meetups and number of attendees.
>>>>
>>>> Cons:
>>>> - its not a free service. Costs $89.94 every 6 months :(
>>>> - new members will have to sign up to Meetup.com to RSVP or get
>>>> notifications of new meetups, higher barrier to entry (note though that you
>>>> dont have to sign up to view the meetup details)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As far as KPI's of chapter activity are concerned. I am not aware of
>>>> how its currently done... but once you have signed up to Meetup.com it
>>>> becomes very much like a mailing list. Also it is not necessary to signup
>>>> to Meetup.com to view all current and passed meetups (assuming you
>>>> dont have the meetings set to private). So as long as a link to the meetup
>>>> page is provided on the chapter wiki this shouldn't be a problem right?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Julian
>>>> OWASP Melbourne
>>>> @JulianBerton
>>>>
>>>> On 17 November 2014 18:33, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Very cool, Martin. Glad to see meetup working around the world...
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, no stress here chapter leaders. This is just an option to help
>>>>> grow your chapter, it's not a requirement that anyone is putting on you.
>>>>>
>>>>> The chapter handbook is pretty flexible in this area, so I really
>>>>> encourage you to experiment with ways to grow your chapter.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a side note, most searches for "OWASP <yourCity>" land at the OWASP
>>>>> wiki so it's good to keep that page updated or at least pointing to your
>>>>> meeting service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aloha,
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jim Manico
>>>>> @Manicode
>>>>> (808) 652-3805
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Martin Knobloch <
>>>>> martin.knobloch at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Meet-ups are growing in recognition and are becoming more normal here
>>>>> in the Netherlands.
>>>>> That is in certain area's, as BitCoin and DevOps. Say in community
>>>>> driven, agile-style environments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -martin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Gaston Toth <gaston.toth at owasp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dirk, I agree with you, I live in the south of Argentina and the
>>>>>> use of meetup is not common here.
>>>>>>
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